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Buyer's Basic Guide to Orchestral Sample Libraries

I didn't say BBC was the only game in town..I said for the price, and as a complete orchestra (which seems it's what Resnov), it's the only option,
Sorry still not true. :) All of the above are complete orchestras.

besides he already has Discover.
Discover is very limited, certainly more so than anything I listed.

But I do agree that VSL SE is close as is EW, but the others are ensembles or have a lot less instruments and articulations...so sure, they're cheaper, but they also have less to offer.
What they do/don't offer in terms of specifics varies so in some cases it might be less, but in others as much if not more to offer. For example, BBSCO Core has no ensembles. IMO that's a glaring omission for a "complete" orchestral library and it's one of the very few (offhand the only one I can think of) that does this.
 
Discover is very limited, certainly more so than anything I listed.
I mean since he already has it, going to Core or Pro would make sense especially if he likes it.

For example, BBSCO Core has no ensembles. IMO that's a glaring omission for a "complete" orchestral
I think you missed the intention behind BBC...it's not just the instruments, it's value is also about it being a true working orchestra...it's like buying a library of the Boston pops. So as an orchestra, there won't be ensembles...and by ensembles, I mean combined patches, not ensemble sections. Although, I could agree that it would have been cool to record some curated combinations like they did with the Abbey Road add-ons.
 
I mean since he already has it, going to Core or Pro would make sense especially if he likes it.
Ah got ya - yeah makes sense if he likes the sound (though a few here have said the sound isn't necessarily the same in Discover as Core and Pro? I don't mean features, just the sound itself. Can't say.)

I think you missed the intention behind BBC...it's not just the instruments, it's value is also about it being a true working orchestra...
Which all of the above are as well. I'm just saying there are options and it's subjective. BBSCO isn't the only game in town by a long shot, no matter what qualifiers you include.
 
the sound isn't necessarily the same in Discover as Core and Pro?
Oh man...worlds apart from pro. Reason due to the mic options..the tone changes drastically. They really should have just given everyone the tree mic and a close mix, rather than the Mix 1.
 
I don't mean diff because of more mic positions, I mean the same sound with the same settings etc...and I thought it was a diff between Discover and Core, as well as Pro, but I don't remember the specifics.
 
I don't mean diff because of more mic positions, I mean the same sound with the same settings etc...and I thought it was a diff between Discover and Core, as well as Pro, but I don't remember the specifics.
That really can't be compared though, there are no settings in Discover. Discover has 1 dynamic, and baked in reverb and combined mics or maybe just the tree...etc, to give users a taste. May as well be a glorified demo...that is how I used it anyway. The sound of the strings in Discover is what got me to buy the library (they are good)...and they are that much better in the full version. So if someone already likes the sound of Discover, they will LOVE the full version. Discover is curated to be a total of 200 Mbs...so they had to cut corners somewhere.
 
EWHO Opus is on sale now. You get the best part of "The Orchestra" (the engine, but better) plus an actually usable orchestra. It has the perfect Hollywood sound with more articulations than you might ever need.

That said, for a beginner, BBCSO Pro is also great, especially because it is recorded in situ and is perfectly balanced, so it doesn't take much work to make it sound great together.

As a note, I was very disappointed initially with The Orchestra. It sounds a bit synthy to me. But the engine is amazing. So when they built the engine for HO, but with a lot more options, I was really happy.
 
Buyer's Basic Guide to Orchestral Sample Libraries


Newly migrated to GitHub pages as of December 2020! There are instructions on the site itself for reporting issues, but I'll continue to answer any questions/comments/input on the guide in this thread.
I’m not sure if this is still being updated and I’m sorry if it’s not (my bad), but for what it’s worth, a couple of helpful updates on the orchestral section might be:
Metropolis ark 5 is out and should be included with the first 4 which you have included.
Albion III Iceini is dead and should be removed.
You mention Berlin Inspire which has “samples taken from the beloved Berlin Orchestra” and then don’t list the Berlin Orchestra with the others 😅 (it’s individual sections are mentioned later I admit)

Otherwise, this really is fantastic.
 
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I’m not sure if this is still being updated and I’m sorry if it’s not (my bad), but for what it’s worth, a couple of helpful updates on the orchestral section might be:
Metropolis ark 5 is out and should be included with the first 4 which you have included.
Albion III Iceini is dead and should be removed.
You mention Berlin Inspire which has “samples taken from the beloved Berlin Orchestra” and then don’t list the Berlin Orchestra with the others 😅 (it’s individual sections are mentioned later I admit)

Otherwise, this really is fantastic.
You're right, the guide was last updated a year and a half ago and I haven't had very much time to work on it since. The attempt to crowdsource contributions via GitHub hasn't been very successful... I'm not sure when the next update will be, but the orchestral sampling landscape is already very different than it was, so if/when it comes, it will likely be quite a big one!
 
You're right, the guide was last updated a year and a half ago and I haven't had very much time to work on it since. The attempt to crowdsource contributions via GitHub hasn't been very successful... I'm not sure when the next update will be, but the orchestral sampling landscape is already very different than it was, so if/when it comes, it will likely be quite a big one!
Ah, I didn’t realise it was intended to be a crowd-contributions thing. Sorry that hasn’t worked out super great. :/ maybe you can edit the original post and put it out there that you’d like keen people to contribute?
All the best
 
Ah, I didn’t realise it was intended to be a crowd-contributions thing. Sorry that hasn’t worked out super great. :/ maybe you can edit the original post and put it out there that you’d like keen people to contribute?
All the best
Good point - done!
 
I found the list yesterday and thought it was very helpful! I just created a pull request with the changes suggested from May, and I'd be happy to help out with any other updates (time permitting).
 
I found the list yesterday and thought it was very helpful! I just created a pull request with the changes suggested from May, and I'd be happy to help out with any other updates (time permitting).
Thanks! The guide is definitely not in the best shape it could be in, but the hope was by putting it on GitHub we could crowdsource knowledge + effort. Thanks for being the first contributor!
 
Buyer's Basic Guide to Orchestral Sample Libraries


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I wish I had seen this earlier, thanks for the work.

I think it could be useful to add:
- Whether the sound can be dried or not (default reverb on / off)
- What the target use is (film scoring, orchestral music, etc.)
- Whether the individual sections can be played separately or not

Also, I don't think I've seen the East West library mentioned under the orchestra tab.
Also, in the sections tabs, you seem to ignore the NI stuff, any reason why?
 
All sample libraries can do this; it is a totally irrelevant feature to distinguish.
I'm wondering what the difference between "not useful" and "totally irrelevant" is.
But I digress.

Thank you, it wasn't obvious to me that all libraries allow the user to choose the reverb applied to the instrument(s).

@OP Ignore my suggestion, of course
 
@doctoremmet IMO for myself as a newbie, your post was quite enlightening. So was your suggestion for Kirk Hunter's and/or Synchronized.

(Hopefully I remember it correctly & not mix up your post with someone else's, since you've deleted the post.)
 
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