IK released Pianoverse piano virtual instrument

neutralomen said:

I have tested both the 280VC and Fazioli extensively, and I'm really surprised that there isn't more widespread coverage of the many issues plaguing the unevenness/playability/sour notes/ugly resonances that make these pianos liabilities for recordings(the reason I bought them).

Far and away the words problem is C#4 on the Bosendorfer. When playing lightly, around p thought mf, it's a very prominent PWANNNGGG. when you play a scale with that C#, it stands out like a sore thumb. When you try to voice a chord or use inner movement involving that note, forget about it. it's BRUTAL.

The Fazioli has a few high-pitched ringing when sustaining some single notes. most noticeable to me is F#4.

On both instruments, the treble octaves, C5-G6, that range, the volumes are so uneven when playing piano or pianissimo. sometimes you even lose entire notes. And yes I have a good controller, the roland A-88MkII which performs perfectly on all my other pianos VSTs. It's not a hardware issue.

I don't know if any of you tried the Una Corda function with a second pedal, but, while it sounds very good/very real, the playability is nonexistent. it's impossible to play lightly with una corda. unless you SLAM the treble keys, you lose notes playing chords and passages.

The only way around this currently is to jack the velocity offset to 10 and change the velo curve to something quite convex, but the tradeoff is, you lose control and timbre control at lighter dynamics. For loud pop music you can play them this way and they perform okay, but IMO the current way these products were released are pretty unacceptable.

It's a shame too because I really dig the realism and was looking forward to making records with these. As it stands they're liabilities.

I have a ticket open for that Bosendorfer's C#4. I'm hoping to get eyes on these other issues. It feels like these weren't even tested very much by players before launch. I find it really hard to believe these things would have been missed.

For those who haven't, try the una corda pedal, and play piano/pianissimo around the 5th octave and tell me you don't lose notes left and right from poorly regulated action.

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Hello! I'm discussing with IKMultimedia support about an issue I got with Pianoverse on C5. They're telling me they can't hear it, they just hear a normal note with the piano hammer. On my side I can hear an unnatural transient with lack of harmonics which makes the key unusable. I put an audio...

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S R Krishnan said:

Hi. I'm observing the same issue. Installed the samples in default location. But that was in C drive. Now I deleted those samples and I tried to reinstall the YF3 after selecting ask for location on product manager. I selected the custom location post clicking ok on the reinstall pop-up, nothing happens.

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quietmind said:

For me, the Fazioli works the better than anything else I've found, because it has for my music the most pleasing, solid and consistent timbre of a solo instrument. And yes, I have most all the piano libraries. That said, before a final rendering, I sometimes do need to address a few notes here and there that stick out, as you say. I've been able to successfully do that by substituting a pitch-shifted note on a different track, shifting by a semitone only. But I do understand it's an entirely different matter if those notes disturb your feel of the playability of the instrument. I have an acoustic Hamburg D and it rings in certain notes... I just get used to it.

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re-peat said:

I have no idea how many velocity layers there are — I have no interest in that sort of information as it’s totally meaningless, I find (provided there’s an adequate minimum of expressive dynamic differentiation of course) — but the one I bought a few hours ago plays rather nicely, I must say.

A couple of details that could be singled out for comment, a few other things I wished were included (instead of the ridiculous option to be able to make the instrument sound as if recorded in the Antartic, on Mars or on the bottom of the ocean — who comes up with this sillyness?), some default settings which, to my ears, are a bit wrong (for a natural pianosound and -behaviour, that is) and one or two other things which suprised me to have passed a beta-test, but apart from all that: a very decently sampled piano. Lower half of the keyboard I would even call outstanding. (Upper half perhaps a fraction dead?) Really nice, full-bodied dimensionality to the sound as well, giving the instrument a presence you don’t often get from sampled pianos. Sufficient spatial possibilities too. And the whole different enough in sound and character from any other similarly branded sampled piano I own to guarantee it a permanent place among my platoon of virtual pianos.

€99 rather well-spent.

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Francis Bourre said:

Yeah, there's a bug, it's impossible to reinstall any soundbank after the 1st installation.

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mikehalloran said:

For the Mac, this was finally fixed in v. 1.10.0 of the IK Project Manager a few weeks ago. I see that an update to 1.14 dropped in the last few days (first time I've fired it up since NAMM). Hopefully, this has been fixed for Windows, too.

The IK Project Manager and previous installation schemes were so bad for so long… I'm glad to see that these issues are being addressed. The Mac version is actually good now.

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