Synchron Woodwinds - Free Legato Update 2024
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Ben
VSL
Yes, you are right.
dcoscina
Senior Member
the Synchron Horn Lyrical Legato doesn't sound quite as gorgeous as the horn in the Synchron SmartOrchestra to my ears which has much more prominent slurring of notes. I do hope VSL imports that over to Synchron Brass at some point because it is AMAZING in Synchron Smart orch. Same with the trumpet legato in Smart Orch.
Could you post a comparison? I'm very interested. I was disappointed by the horn 6 legato (Jupiter's) which has a very strange modulation (transition too abrupt). Is it different in the smart orchestra?
EwigWanderer
Senior Member
I think we are talking about the solo horn.
mducharme
Senior Member
The horn in Synchron Smart Orchestra I find is not quite usable for this reason. The transitions are much louder than the notes themselves in a lot of cases. This is not the case with the Synchron Horn Lyrical Legato in the main brass package, so I think it's caused by a programming error in Synchron Smart Orchestra where the transition samples were made much louder than they are supposed to be.
It seems to be especially noticeable with quieter notes, so I suspect what might have happened is they might accidentally be using the legato transition samples for the mp layer in the pp layer or something.
That was another question that had nothing to do with the first one. If legato is better on smart orchestra for trumpet or horn solo, I'm curious to hear the difference.
dcoscina
Senior Member
Hmm interesting. I find a complete lack of connection of notes in the Synchron Brass Lyrical Horn. It might as well be sustain long to my ears. I don’t hear enough connection of notes. The new wind lyrical legatos sound great by contrast and I’m hoping VSL keeps going in this direction with other Synchron libs.
mducharme
Senior Member
So here's a recording of both, playing the same MIDI, with the default settings upon loading them, then normalized using Audacity. I'm not sure there's much difference. The default mic mix might be a bit different, as the Synchron Brass horn sounds further away. Probably the Smart Orchestra horn uses a different microphone mix that uses more close mic, which could impact the perceived level of the transition sample. Or the default EQ could be different.
SSO Horn:
View attachment SSO Horn.mp3
SYB Horn:
View attachment SYB Horn.mp3
The SSO horn is much louder in volume when it loads by default, so I had to normalize them in a different program to be reasonably sure that I was comparing apples to apples.
SSO Horn:
View attachment SSO Horn.mp3
SYB Horn:
View attachment SYB Horn.mp3
The SSO horn is much louder in volume when it loads by default, so I had to normalize them in a different program to be reasonably sure that I was comparing apples to apples.
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Ben
VSL
Please let me know if the library fix today fixes this issue.
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Ben
VSL
The parts file is not part of the download. The Update5 Patch file is indeed only 346KB.Anyone having an issue with Vienna Assistant not completing the update?
After a half hour or so it hasn't finished nor deleted the parts file.
I do have one file installed that I can see - although much smaller than the parts file.
Robert_G
The End is Near
Yes, the phasing problem is fixed.
Interesting that in the Flute and Clarinet, the Lyrical Legato is missing the the top dynamic that is definitely present in the normal legato....and yet with the Oboe, the Lyrical Legato seems to go just a hair higher in dynamics than the normal legato. Perhaps you guys meant for it to be like that?
blaggins
Senior Member
Just want to say that I *really* appreciate that VSL maintains a CHANGELOG. It's nice to know that I can always look up which instruments changed as part of any update release, because then I just have to test those specific instruments in my template to understand if there's been anything I need to change (for example tweaks to my expression maps or mixes).
