If you don't ask you don't get.
Visions change. Products evolves. Sometimes.
Out Now | Ethera Gold Atlantis 3
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Visions change. Products evolves. Sometimes.
Yes.
To which I'd add the following texture:
Stephan quite eloquently articulates his vision (which we all respect): in the demos; in how he talks genres he talks about this library being designed for; in the context of his professional experience, for instance here:
Which to be clear - is absolutely great.
But then, there are people like myself who just don't write in any of these genres, or share any of theses concerns of the commercial world and so on.
Seriously, the demos are great, but there's not a single demo that speaks directly to anything that I'm actually looking to write myself.
I would normally not even get through the trailer for this genre of library.
And yet ... I'm delighted to have Altantis. For, as I've written before, I feel that it's different. And really has capacities to transcend it's intended genres.
Echoing my own experience on the fringes of Atlantis, I read the above exchange (and it's predecessors) as an attempt to give insight into how these libraries transcend these genres, for a kind of composer beyond that which it is (clearly) not designed for, and to which Stephano's experience doesn't necessarily speak to directly.
Which is great. It's a testament to just how excellent - artistically and technically - Stephano's libraries truly are.
And if there's no artistic interest or business case or whatever in further supporting composers like myself getting even more value from these libraries but pushing the design just a little bit in the direction of accommodating other genres, then that's absolutely fine. The library remains wonderful to have just as it is.
But surely, articulating this kind of insight, and understanding it, can only be to the benefit of everyone?
Looking forward to getting stuck into Atlantis 3 (I'm still finding cool things in Atlantis 2)
StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
True,
but before asking, one should demonstrate that they have at least understood how it works. It often happens that some guy pretend to want to do things in an incorrect way, like those who play a slow legato and expect to perform fast passages. and if There's a Slow Legato, there's a reason for that. A slow legato is a slow legato and should be played that way.
It's pointless to force it to do things for which it was not developed. But this is something that needs to be understood. The same goes here for the phrase builders.
The question to ask is, "Why can't I achieve what I might hear in the videos? Am I sure I've understood how to use it?" I've explained multiple times how they should be used.
And if the answer is, "Yes, but I want to do it this way," and I tell you that's not the way to use them, it's not a matter of me needing to change; it's a matter of you needing to understand and study how to use a product. Because, as I've mentioned, there are also technical limitations that prevent certain things from being done.
Furthermore, as I've explained, I have an idea, and I don't necessarily have to change it for anyone. The wonderful thing is that there are many developers, so everyone can find the developer closest to their taste. If, for me, sound quality is important, for another developer, it might be more important to let you insert all the syllables you want, even if the sound quality is debatable and fairly fake. If, for you, sound quality, expressiveness, and a credible and professional final result are more important, you'll buy a different library.
So when I introduce something, I always have this thought in mind:
Is it credible or is it fake? Because if it sounds fake, I won't do it. It doesn't interest me. Even if is it more Flexible.
The Ethera Gold series has been tremendously successful and continues to be, thanks to you, and I've listened to your requests a lot, so I say always thanks , and all the feedbacks are crucial for me.
Whenever possible, I've added everything that's been asked for. WHEN POSSIBLE, because it's not always possible.
And then, I always recommend learning how to use a library.
To use creativity, to make the most of it, which is something that often isn't done.
People often think about the things that might be there and don't focus on how to make good use of what's already available.
The potential here is truly high; you just have to put it into practice.
In Conclusion
As I mentioned in another post,
I will continue to listen, keep evolving this series, and if the interest remains alive,
I will continue to offer my vision because, first and foremost,
I have to do what makes me satisfied, because first of all I'm a composer/sound designer ... I use what I create, it is not only business...
Otherwise, I can't put in the passion.
I have to do what I'm capable of because I'm not perfect, of course.
When I created ELEMENTS MSS, I did it because I wanted a library like that, and I couldn't find any made in that way. With that engine, it allowed me to do certain things quickly.
There might be more complex libraries out there, but I can't achieve the same results with them. So, Elements MSS became my "go-to" library for all those hybrid/ambient-style things, not just because I made it. The same goes for Elements CR.
In fact, as I often show in my videos, I also showcase the OTHER( not mine ) libraries I use.
It's not a problem for me. I don't make tutorials and only show what I've created.
In all of this, I will certainly try to incorporate all the requests within my capabilities.
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Robert_G
The End is Near
Because you are one of the most transparent developers here, I don't mind asking you this.
What are you working on right now? Can you throw us a bone?
StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
Regarding the sample libraries, I'm planning some future releases.
This month, I had work to do as a sound designer for cinema, so I focused on that. Starting from December, I'll begin working on the next library. I'd like to release a third chapter of Elements.
The focus isn't clear yet; I have some ideas.
In my mind
Elements MSS is the "Generic" Hybrid Scoring Synth Library
Elements CR is for Folk - Tribal RAW Percussion
The Next Elements will have a specific focus... like Elements CR, but I would like to create always something of inspiring, with a lot of sound design possibilities..
I also have in mind two new chapters of Ethera.
One will probably be an upgrade of Sahara Voices, a beautiful library. I'm considering either an update with more "modern" ethnic material. And then, we'll see.
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StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
Hello Guys,
The hybrid Vocal Synth in Atlantis 3 is a library within the library; indeed, it could be a separate instrument (who knows if I'll revisit this concept and expand it in the future?). In any case, here's an overview video for those who need some additional details.
The hybrid Vocal Synth in Atlantis 3 is a library within the library; indeed, it could be a separate instrument (who knows if I'll revisit this concept and expand it in the future?). In any case, here's an overview video for those who need some additional details.
Great to hear that the journey continues.
Not sure if it would be to your taste, but I'd love to see a collaboration between yourself and The Hu !
(edit: misspelt The Hu as The Wu...)
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GuitarGeck
Ian Whyte - Retired
Stefano, your VST instruments are outstanding! Thank you for all the work you put into them and for the valuable tutorials for using them. I am so delighted with Ethera Atlantis 3!
Cheers, Ian
Cheers, Ian
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StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
Thanks!
I love The Wu, but not so easy work with him.. Distance, commitments... not easy, but I love him.
Many Thanks!
Oops, sorry I meant The Hu (mongolian band).
Dan L
New Member
This is pure magic!
Well sure, maybe some of the vocalists sounds a little odd up there on the church balcony singing a swedish psalm (with a scent of Swedish folk music). But it doesn't matter, this is great! Thank you for doing this, and sharing this!
This made my day!
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Thanks @Dan L!
Yes, I agree it does not make perfect sense genre-wise. Still, I think it is an example which helps to show the versatility of the Ethera vocalists for other genres.
StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
Hello,
Libraries Used
Zero-G Elements Cinematic Rhythms
Zero-G Elements Modern Scoring Synth
Keepforest Ferrum
Cine Strings Studio
Cine Brass
Ark1
Damage Rock Groove
About The Vocals of course I've used a lot of patches from Atlantis III.
Heroic True Legato ( Clara )
Atlantis True Legato ( Ah and Uh Articulation ) ( Clara )
Firenze True Legato ( Rosaria )
Venezia True Legato ( Livia )
Fantasy True Legato ( Lara )
Hybrid Vocals
Valkyrie Vocal Phrases ( Clara)
Polyphonic Vocal Chants ( Clara ) ( Na Na Eh Eh Oh )
ansatsuno
Path to Enlightenment
Thank you for the reply Stefano, I appreciate it.
Pontus Rufelt
Active Member
StefanoM
Senior Sound Designer & Composer
Hello,
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