Samplicity announces Berlin Studio plugin
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Peter Roos
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In reality it is done with long sounds
maybe preparing that, then sneaking out and leaving materials that are connected to the cloud, then record at night, at very loooow levels
I like music
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You could capture the IRs by dropping an iLok dongle from a heightIn reality it is done with long sounds
maybe preparing that, then sneaking out and leaving materials that are connected to the cloud, then record at night, at very loooow levels
Paul@Sydney
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An unexpected benefit of using Berlin Studio - I've worked out which mics work best through BerSt for each of HOOPUS and VSL Synchron, and archived all the other mics off to slow long term storage, freeing up valuable SSD space... a nice treat! And less mics means less RAM and SSD performance demands too, and projects load quicker.
Markrs
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I thought of doing this with other reverb products, and mentioned it on a thread but I think the general reception was that it is a bad idea due to the "stale" nature of IRs.
Being able to do this does would make Berlin Studio more appealing.
Gabriel S.
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Do you have a comparison between the library with all its mics VS your new reduced version with Berlin studio?
For me the conceptual problem of that approach is that 2 speakers in a room can't replicate how the instrument sounds in that same space, not even close. But I would love to hear a snippet of your results
. Glad it works for you
TinderC
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+1 on the central controller.
Gabriel S.
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Hi Peter, two speakers (I guess!) for each section in the case of Berlin Studio. What I mean is a speaker is not a flute or a cello or a timpani. It can't spread the sound in the same way as the real thing, therefore I am sceptic about the idea of replacing several mic positions of a library with Berlin Studio, as a concept. I see Berlin Studio for other uses, not that particular one. But I didn't want to open a discussion here.
Thats why I am curious to hear comparisons, if people say it works for them
Paul@Sydney
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Hi, my latest piece in members compositions is a blend through Berlin, do you think it's successful at being in a space?Hi Peter, two speakers (I guess!) for each section in the case of Berlin Studio. What I mean is a speaker is not a flute or a cello or a timpani. It can't spread the sound in the same way as the real thing, therefore I am sceptic about the idea of replacing several mic positions of a library with Berlin Studio, as a concept. I see Berlin Studio for other uses, not that particular one. But I didn't want to open a discussion here.
Thats why I am curious to hear comparisons, if people say it works for them
Post in thread 'Short Action Cue (HOOPUS, VSL, Sequis, Zebra2)' https://vi-control.net/community/th...-hoopus-vsl-sequis-zebra2.146731/post-5463036
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Peter Roos
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The speaker playback comparison can be suggestive, in terms of limited bandwidth, SNR, etc.
There is much more time/frequency information contained in impulse responses than the comparison suggests.
There is much more time/frequency information contained in impulse responses than the comparison suggests.
Central control for Berlin Studio would be amazing! Any chance for close or spot mics? I'd love to use those in stead of using the dry sounds of SM Brass and Strings.
Nebulon Ranger
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100%, then I'd be able to get rid of VSS2 for good!
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Peter Roos
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One GUI to control several/many instances
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Peter Roos
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This use case - using microphones close to the instrument positions for only some reflections, a bit of tail and some positioning info - was never considered.
The main goal was to capture the acoustics from the perspective of the Decca Tree and the other hall microphones. Which also works very well with modelled instruments, imho.
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mbishop
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In lieu of that, would it be workable to just use another reverb with mostly early reflections (quiet) and just a little tail? I haven’t tried it, but it was an idea I had.
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Peter Roos
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Is this about saving time?
Or are you not sure where you should pan your instruments?
I think any attempt to add "pre-panning" in the plugin would probably lead to more requests, as this depends of course which sample library you are using (read: how "wide" and "where" their instruments are panned out of the box).
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Peter Roos
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Can you elaborate on this? I do not understand this question. Esp. why another reverb would make a difference in ERs / tail.
In Berlin Studio each mic channel runs two separate convo-engines, one for the ERs and one for the tail. Their split point is 80 msec, with an equal-power crossfade. So there is full control, per mic channel, over the amounts of ERs and tails.
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Yes as a saver time, surely would depend on the instrument itself.
