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Legato Update for Berlin Strings (2024)

JohnS said:
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This is very strange, according to that page there has been no updates, but I just updated and it downloaded something for violin and viola (and not for cello). Confusing.
 
Embarrassing question to ask, but can I get some descriptions of what you listen for to judge a good vs bad legato in a sample library?

I never seem to be bothered by the legato examples I hear; perhaps I'm more drawn to tone and string texture (where I definitely have my preferences)...
 
My legato pet peeve is when there are dynamics mismatches. I don't even mind if it's faked with a filter, but the HOOPUS solo horn is an easy example where the softest dynamic for the legato is far more intense than the subsequent sustain.

Maybe this is what people call "bumpy" legato?
 
Could someone who has not installed the update check basses accented sustains? It seems to have something wrong going on with the looping, as the attack phases (accent) of the sustain is included in the loop. I would like to know: has that been the case before without me noticing? Or is it a bug the snug into this update ... in case you have installed the update, could you check this patch as well?
 
Nimrod7 said:
I have such huge problems every time an update is going out.
Downloads stops, or going up to several hours per mic, or the downloader halts not showing anything or progressing.

Anyone is facing this?

OT support have been useless on this specific issue. Recommending to delete files, reinstall the entire library etc, which is not helping, just making things worst.
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I had this problem overnight. I had to restart, then Sine crashed on close. It did pick up where it left off, but one patch looks dead. It sits at the top of the downloads with nothing happening to it. You can see that several patches have been downloaded since.

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I imagine I'll have to redownload the violas to fix this...
 
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I downloaded mine quite quickly yesterday. 30 mins total. US. 1.4g fiber. I basically just selected four at a time. The violins took the longest. But everything else actually came very quickly I worked from the bottom up after Violins :)

Still a very clunky downloader and the licenses and download tabs are the laggiest things things.
 
OleJoergensen said:
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, reloading patches to use the update, does it means removing al loaded articulation in SINE pr. instrument and then readjust al settings + mic mix?
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I just ended up wiping the multi and starting again. When the the ostinato legato option shows up in V1 - I think the new one is loaded.
 
How did I miss this news for the last couple of days ?
It seems that OT has some problems with their newsletter subscribing tool. Didn't receiving any, and never received the 25€ voucher mail either although on my account it says that my newsletter subscription is active...

I'll have to be patient as, like others, the download doesn't work.
 
madfloyd said:
Embarrassing question to ask, but can I get some descriptions of what you listen for to judge a good vs bad legato in a sample library?
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Legato transitions are the sound between the notes so to speak in a legato sequence; the sound which you can hear connects a note with the next one.

As for bad legato: For me, the legato transitions are usually not something I particular aim to listen for, it’s more a question of bad legato that draws attention to itself so I notice it.
 
Where was this update announced? I have checked my email and can't find anything about this update (I'm subscribed to their newsletter). The last mail I recieved from OT was in the middle of december.
 
madfloyd said:
Embarrassing question to ask, but can I get some descriptions of what you listen for to judge a good vs bad legato in a sample library?

I never seem to be bothered by the legato examples I hear; perhaps I'm more drawn to tone and string texture (where I definitely have my preferences)...
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Bad legato in sample libraries is like extra fingers in otherwise convincing AI-generated images. In simplest terms, bad legato does not reflect the sound of an actual player/performance because the notes aren't connected in a natural way via slur/bow change/etc. For instance, when I hear demos of libraries with poor legato, they immediately tell my brain, "This is programmed MIDI," and I don't want to listen further. Players of real instruments will likely always be most sensitive to this.
 
Guess its good to be in NZ .. potentially using different download servers?

Download and update worked fine, starting a bit slow with violins but then was working its way through within 1-2 hours

Update sounds lovely.. well done OT
 
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