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When my in-laws overstay their welcome this Christmas, I may throw it on. So I plan to play it on my Sonos all day and I just have to flip open the volume control ;)
Just to be the devil on your shoulder, if you truly think you're going to buy it ever, then you're not saving any money not buying it now. You may as well pay the same amount but have it sooner ;) (which technically also means have it for longer in life, which is a roundabout way of justifying it as better value!)
 
Yes, we seem to share a mutual fascination, that’s for sure. I keep telling myself, we have SA Recordings Lea Bertucci mini-libraries, IRCAM and Xsample at home. But it doesn’t help at all.

Other than that I still can’t be bothered. I distract myself by making playlists on Spotify. Here’s a random one.


Even though I was clearly joking, my sense of humour must have degraded as concerned citizens have urged me to stress and clarify that the Spotify playlist containing 17+ hours of music by the artists that were sampled on Spectres doesn’t actually contain music MADE with Spectres. Please forgive me for being so reckless and careless. On behalf of the entire doctoremmet team we wish you happy holidays, with or without this -apparently - divisive sample library!
 
Even though I was clearly joking, my sense of humour must have degraded as concerned citizens have urged me to stress and clarify that the Spotify playlist containing 17+ hours of music by the artists that were sampled on Spectres doesn’t actually contain music MADE with Spectres. Please forgive me for being so reckless and careless. On behalf of the entire doctoremmet team we wish you happy holidays, with or without this -apparently - divisive sample library!
You're a treasure, Emmet! Happy holidays to you!!
 
On behalf of the entire doctoremmet team we wish you happy holidays, with or without this -apparently - divisive sample library!
Now I have an image of you, dressed in red, surrounded by a phalanx of Elves, all busily moving Petabytes of data within your sample storage grotto onto external drives.
The good little boys and girls will get a 4TB USB4/TSB4 drive full of goodies in their stockings, whilst the naughty ones will get a 512MB USB 2 stick full of MIDI packs. :rofl:

Just make sure that you don't feed the Elves Advocaat and Stollen after midnight or their Legatos will get droopy.
 
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Now I have an image of you, dressed in red, surrounded by a phalanx of Elves, all busily moving Petabytes of data within your sample storage grotto onto external drives.
The good little boys and girls will get a 4TB USB4/TSB4 drive full of goodies in their stockings, whilst the naughty ones will get a 512MB USB 2 stick full of MIDI packs. :rofl:

Just make sure that you don't feed the Elves Avocat and Stollen after midnight or their Legatos will get droopy.
Honestly, if I had tons of money, I’d do just that. I’d drop a ton of SSDs on all of you, send out Spitfire and VSL vouchers and have Samsung produce little T5’s with Happy Holidays engraved on the wine-red cases. I’d even hire Mario to make Spectres capable of drag ‘n drop sample import and offer the patch for free. That’s how much I love y’all. Now, go make music.
 
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Quick question for the VI-C hive mind: does Landforms also offer the opportunity to access the WAVs, like Spectres does?
 
As I am enjoying demoing Halion 7 right now, I'd like to use these samples in that engine.
The only way will be to manually sample them and import, as S&A are hardly likely to give you access to them as WAV files.

I had no intention of buying this but I am on the fence now.
This is the opposite of my process with OT Drones.
With that, I was keen but my interest fell away and their no transfer policy killed the idea.
With this, my interest has grown significantly and their excellent transfer policy is pushing me towards a purchase.
didn't know S+A License is now transferable. That's good move.
I've started thinking to give a try on Spectres..
 
I asked them and you can transfer them as it clearly states in the highlighted text.
Well, two people so far have interpreted the highlighted passage quite differently, so I think that alone invalidates “clearly.” What a horrendously badly worded policy.
 
Each new Slate + Ash product seems to top their previous products, which were excellent.

For professionals, though, I think there's a lot to worry about with using these products in your music. These longer phrases performed by artists stand a good chance of being flagged by bots. No fun to have to deal with getting those strikes. Contractually, lots of companies that employ artists to create music contract are stipulating that these longer-phrase libraries not be used.
 
Contractually, lots of companies that employ artists to create music contract are stipulating that these longer-phrase libraries not be used.
Any idea what definition is being used for “longer-phrase libraries” in terms of either number of bests/measures or length of time?
 
Any idea what definition is being used for “longer-phrase libraries” in terms of either number of bests/measures or length of time?
Nico did a video explaining how he got a YouTube copyright strike for utilizing a short ostinato pattern via extracted MIDI from Action Strings 2 played via another string library. That's generic in comparison to the unique extended technique sounds in Spectres.
 
Any idea what definition is being used for “longer-phrase libraries” in terms of either number of bests/measures or length of time?
I don't. You're at the mercy of the bots. If someone else uses these sounds, first, you just might get the dreaded we've-heard-this-before message.
 
Nico did a video explaining how he got a YouTube copyright strike for utilizing a short ostinato pattern via extracted MIDI from Action Strings 2 played via another string library. That's generic in comparison to the unique extended technique sounds in Spectres.
Yeah, I know the tech behind ContentID is now capable of identifying samples, even heavily processed, at lengths as short as a second, so we’re already in range of sample libraries being a potential problem. I’m just wondering if any sort of standard has been set in terms of what needs to be avoided.

I presume none of these companies can say: no sample libraries at all. If that was the case we’d be hearing it here. So what guidance are those working on this sort of material actually being given? (I’ve heard no commercial loops including phrase libraries, no construction kits. But I’ve not yet heard that things like Ostinato libraries, texture libraries, and other traditional VIs that are suitably generic are not acceptable. Obviously there’s a large area of overlap if you consider things like orchestral effects, run libraries, and so forth.)

Action Strings 2 seems an interesting data point since, as far as I’m aware, it doesn’t use long loops but instead creates its units by assembling patterns of individual samples so the audio appears as a loop though a loop is never triggered. But the same thing will be true of virtually any library used to make common ostinati. So does that mean ostinati are now frowned on unless they are recorded anew?
 
Yeah, I know the tech behind ContentID is now capable of identifying samples, even heavily processed, at lengths as short as a second, so we’re already in range of sample libraries being a potential problem. I’m just wondering if any sort of standard has been set in terms of what needs to be avoided.

I presume none of these companies can say: no sample libraries at all. If that was the case we’d be hearing it here. So what guidance are those working on this sort of material actually being given? (I’ve heard no commercial loops including phrase libraries, no construction kits. But I’ve not yet heard that things like Ostinato libraries, texture libraries, and other traditional VIs that are suitably generic are not acceptable. Obviously there’s a large area of overlap if you consider things like orchestral effects, run libraries, and so forth.)

Action Strings 2 seems an interesting data point since, as far as I’m aware, it doesn’t use long loops but instead creates its units by assembling patterns of individual samples so the audio appears as a loop though a loop is never triggered. But the same thing will be true of virtually any library used to make common ostinati. So does that mean ostinati are now frowned on unless they are recorded anew?

They're referred to as "copyright strikes" however chord progressions, ostinatos and arpeggios cannot be copyrighted. I also don't see how YouTube could differentiate between a generated MIDI ostinato and the identical phrase played and quantized. In Nico's example it was clearly the pattern that triggered the strike. So YouTube has essentially redefined the term copyright for their own purposes, which simplifies the matter for them at the expense of the artists.
 
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