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Making Music like Hiroyuki Sawano

Found this video from the Grissini Project covering some AOT soundtracks. Might give more insight with the line up:
 
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Looks like Hybrid Rhythms is free again, for some of that Sawano layering
 
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Hahahahah I remember the same part of that episode. Ohh yes, Place of pads cost between 7 or 8 dollars if I remember correctly
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looks like jokes on me, place of pads doesn't seem to be on sale over Black Friday 😂

More importantly though, 8dio Epic Toms Ensemble is on sale for $18, appears to play a significant part in Sawano's sound, such as in my favorite Xenoblade Theme X (thanks @Akari for the tip)

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So from all the reading I've did through this thread and direct confirmation from sawano himself as well. The VST's he uses are

・Strings

a blend of:
Audiobro LA Scoring Strings 3
8dio majestica strings
projectsam symphobia strings
Cinestrings and
Tokyo Scoring Strings



Brass: Cinematic Studio brass and Cinebrass

Synths:
Omnisphere
reaktor
massive
ABSYNTH
Serum
Evolve Mutations 1 and 2

Drums/Layering:

Stylus RMX
battery
damage
8dio Epic Toms Ensemble
8dio Epic Taiko Ensemble
 
Being playing aroung with Nucleus today for the first time and writing some Sawano-style Strings + Brass orchestration. There's no epic percussion, synths, guitars or drum kits here, and it's more just a string of some unrefined ideas rather than a piece of music. But I think this shows some success mimicking Sawano's "epic" orchestration style so far. I'm mostly inspired by his Gundam Unicorn stuff. I've never really cared about trying to replicate the sound of whatever sample libraries he uses, more just his orchestration style, and I find the results with Nucleus seem pretty great for that. Haven't played with the woodwinds yet though. The legatos can be pretty ugly though imo so I haven't used them at all, just regular longs.
 

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ansthenia said:
Being playing aroung with Nucleus today for the first time and writing some Sawano-style Strings + Brass orchestration. There's no epic percussion, synths, guitars or drum kits here, and it's more just a string of some unrefined ideas rather than a piece of music. But I think this shows some success mimicking Sawano's "epic" orchestration style so far. I'm mostly inspired by his Gundam Unicorn stuff. I've never really cared about trying to replicate the sound of whatever sample libraries he uses, more just his orchestration style, and I find the results with Nucleus seem pretty great for that. Haven't played with the woodwinds yet though. The legatos can be pretty ugly though imo so I haven't used them at all, just regular longs.
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I've been meaning to revisit Nucleus/Jaeger strings at some point. On other hand I never stopped using Nucleus woodwinds. I don't even have a dedicated woodwinds library, and have been getting by just with their limited articulations, which are not bad imo!

I think Nucleus/Jaeger is pretty flexible if you are willing to play around with the sample start time, and it even works in the middle of a phrase :D
 
Juulu said:
I mocked up T-KT earlier this year and revisited today to remix it. The brass is IB and the strings are CSS

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I've been wondering how CSS works in the Sawano style, but I think it did a really great job here! :) I think you did a great job with IB too, wonder what settings/processing you used - on the french horn in particular (?)

The low hits hit my non-mixing headphones a bit hard
 
jason3.14 said:
I've been wondering how CSS works in the Sawano style, but I think it did a really great job here! :) I think you did a great job with IB too, wonder what settings/processing you used - on the french horn in particular (?)

The low hits hit my non-mixing headphones a bit hard
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There's honestly not much going on in the brass. I change how I eq IB pretty often, but recently I learned that I like the sound with some of the low and high end rolled off with a bit of a boost in the mids. Then there is some light compression and all of the brass is sent to the same instance of Seventh Heaven at about -6db of gain. And ya I think my headphones balance out the low end where it's hard to hear if its too bass heavy (either that or my ears are just bad lol). I usually listen to a mix in my car for things like that but this is just an mp3 mixdown so I didn't bother.
 
jason3.14 said:
I've been meaning to revisit Nucleus/Jaeger strings at some point. On other hand I never stopped using Nucleus woodwinds. I don't even have a dedicated woodwinds library, and have been getting by just with their limited articulations, which are not bad imo!

I think Nucleus/Jaeger is pretty flexible if you are willing to play around with the sample start time, and it even works in the middle of a phrase :D
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If you have Areia full, skip the Nucleus/Jaeger strings. Areia is much more on point with those new recordings. 👨‍🍳 🤌

If you don't have Areia, then hopefully AI will get around to updating Nucleus/Jaeger with some of those new legatos.
 
Trash Panda said:
If you have Areia full, skip the Nucleus/Jaeger strings. Areia is much more on point with those new recordings. 👨‍🍳 🤌

If you don't have Areia, then hopefully AI will get around to updating Nucleus/Jaeger with some of those new legatos.
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Ah I don't have Areia (but have Nucleus/Jaeger). Well otherwise I plan to stick with TSS for this kind of sound for the most part I think, as it's served me quite well so far.

Though LASS is on my radar, particularly if it's Lookahead mode is as good as TSS's.
 
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Hi everyone
Since I got into scoring, I can't find this style of expressive violins/cellos in any library, with big jumps in pitch like Sawano does.

For example:

00:12 onwards (and 4:24)



00:32 onwards

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MexvJ3rA364

I know he use 8dio mostly for strings, and i know that any solo violin/cello VST can do this with a pitch wheel in MIDI, but it doesn’t sounds like this, I can’t find something that do things like that, maybe cinestring solo?? I would love to know your opinions about.
 
joaco.sla02 said:
Hi everyone
Since I got into scoring, I can't find this style of expressive violins/cellos in any library, with big jumps in pitch like Sawano does.

For example:

00:12 onwards (and 4:24)



00:32 onwards

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MexvJ3rA364

I know he use 8dio mostly for strings, and i know that any solo violin/cello VST can do this with a pitch wheel in MIDI, but it doesn’t sounds like this, I can’t find something that do things like that, maybe cinestring solo?? I would love to know your opinions about.
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I'd like to say that a physically modeled instrument would be the easiest to get the sound you are looking for since it's easier to shape it instead of a traditionally modeled one.

So if you can, maybe try SWAM?
 
Snow Flake said:
I'd like to say that a physically modeled instrument would be the easiest to get the sound you are looking for since it's easier to shape it instead of a traditionally modeled one.

So if you can, maybe try SWAM?
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What is the difference between a traditional one and a physical one? Sorry, I don't know much about this hahaha, but you say that the swam one would work?
 
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