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now I'm still stumbling around, learning what I can about TS.Has anyone worked with recording a midi instrument set of 10 slots, copied to the daw, duplicated the midi of one or more midi tracks added these and replaced the instrument from the score with one of the phrases from the sonuscore phrase library like MONGOLIAN VOICES or ANCIENT PHRASES or any others.
I realize one could play these as the first 10 slots are played but wondered if any of these phrases could integrate drag and drop style and use the midi info from the repurposed track
Sorry about the type shift, not intended
 
The feature I most wish The Score would incorporate is something Sonuscore already has in, I believe, all ten of the Origins instruments, which is the ability to save, export and import all of the arpeggiator settings for each instrument. Would love to be able to build up a library of arpeggiator setting files and then use them to more quickly and easily create ensembles.
 
Wyndham said:
now I'm still stumbling around, learning what I can about TS.Has anyone worked with recording a midi instrument set of 10 slots, copied to the daw, duplicated the midi of one or more midi tracks added these and replaced the instrument from the score with one of the phrases from the sonuscore phrase library like MONGOLIAN VOICES or ANCIENT PHRASES or any others.
I realize one could play these as the first 10 slots are played but wondered if any of these phrases could integrate drag and drop style and use the midi info from the repurposed track
Sorry about the type shift, not intended
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The midi input needed for the phrases libraries vary quite a bit from other instrument vsts. A triggered note on the keyboard will trigger a beginning, middle or end phrase part based on the key switch for the root note and the key switch for the theme. The phrase you trigger might not start with the note you are pressing down.
What certainly will work is to simply choose a more atmospheric story of The Score and simply lay down a few chords. Then set up the phrases library to match the root note and mode (theme) and try live which phrases work good with the chords! It's surprising how fast such an arrangement comes alive...
 
In the 120 "stories" in The Score, there are sub themes in each for variety of composition.
Since I have yet to purchase TS I have listened to examples of these on the website of the different stories themes. I have wondered how many bars of the progression are played before it loops back to the start of the chord.is it 4 bars or more, are all the sub themes the same length?seems the might be
Just wondering
 
Wyndham said:
In the 120 "stories" in The Score, there are sub themes in each for variety of composition.
Since I have yet to purchase TS I have listened to examples of these on the website of the different stories themes. I have wondered how many bars of the progression are played before it loops back to the start of the chord.is it 4 bars or more, are all the sub themes the same length?seems the might be
Just wondering
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Nothing is longer than 4 bars. You can also have 2bar and 1 bar looping.

There aren’t really subthemes as you describe them. Instead each story has five variations: an intro, main A, main B, outro, and ending. All of these except ending can be used as a full variant. (That is, intro and outro are not restricted in any way that I’ve been able to find.) The ending is just an ending note.

The variations are limited because they all use the same instruments in the ten available slots, though of course you don’t need to use every instrument in every variation.
 
Thanks, I got the impression from the Sonuscore web page and thought the example of the story had more sub types. Thanks for clarifying this for me
 
Past performance is no guarantee of future behaviour etc, but when do Sonuscore typically start to introduce discounts on their new products? I didn't own any version of TOC so couldn't get the crossgrade thingy at launch.
 
Just stumbled upon new Fantasy style score video:
Frankly, I'm not impressed. OK for beginners, maybe, but to me it sounds nowhere near the libraries most talked about on these forums.
 
Vovique said:
Just stumbled upon new Fantasy style score video:
Frankly, I'm not impressed. OK for beginners, maybe, but to me it sounds nowhere near the libraries most talked about on these forums.
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I agree that the sound of the samples in The Score is not really final production caliber, despite what it says on the tin. But partly for that reason—the samples are designed for their function in The Score— I’ve found it an excellent sketching tool for what I’ve come to call “mood frameworks.” I would be happier with the Score in Sonuscore dropped the melody studio part and focused more intently on the scoring capabilities of the ensemble—made it easier to edit and make your own scenes, and allowed more variants and such. It has some promise as an intermediate compositional tool, intermediate in the sense that it’s about quickly sketching prototypes or rough renders that will then be enhanced with better libraries or even real players at a later stage. But that doesn’t seem to be the market Sonuscore has in mind for the product. (It’s interesting to think about who Sonuscore does in fact see as the market for this.)
 
jbuhler said:
I agree that the sound of the samples in The Score is not really final production caliber, despite what it says on the tin. But partly for that reason—the samples are designed for their function in The Score— I’ve found it an excellent sketching tool for what I’ve come to call “mood frameworks.” I would be happier with the Score in Sonuscore dropped the melody studio part and focused more intently on the scoring capabilities of the ensemble—made it easier to edit and make your own scenes, and allowed more variants and such. It has some promise as an intermediate compositional tool, intermediate in the sense that it’s about quickly sketching prototypes or rough renders that will then be enhanced with better libraries or even real players at a later stage. But that doesn’t seem to be the market Sonuscore has in mind for the product. (It’s interesting to think about who Sonuscore does in fact see as the market for this.)
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So I wonder how you use it for sketching. I was hoping the score was going to use samples comparable to Hollywood Orchestra so that you could use it for a final product. I know from The Orchestra, exporting midi and then trying to sub out instruments never really worked well. The system was just designed around their samples and it always sounded better with the Orchestra samples rather than subbing them out even if the samples were inferior in quality.

I was hoping the score was going to up the sample quality.

So if you use The Score for sketching how do you do it? Does subbing out instruments sound better with the score midi export? Or do you literally build the song up from scratch using other instruments and the score as a guide not really using the midi?
 
Macrawn said:
So I wonder how you use it for sketching. I was hoping the score was going to use samples comparable to Hollywood Orchestra so that you could use it for a final product. I know from The Orchestra, exporting midi and then trying to sub out instruments never really worked well. The system was just designed around their samples and it always sounded better with the Orchestra samples rather than subbing them out even if the samples were inferior in quality.

I was hoping the score was going to up the sample quality.

So if you use The Score for sketching how do you do it? Does subbing out instruments sound better with the score midi export? Or do you literally build the song up from scratch using other instruments and the score as a guide not really using the midi?
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I use it for what I call framework sketching. It gives a sense of mood or atmosphere for orchestrations of accompaniment figures within a single track (and usually two hands) which is helpful in keeping everything containable for sketching. The outputted midi has worked reasonably well with other libraries. Of course I make adjustments, even lots of them, but I wouldn't say it's like building from scratch the way you might have to with output from a notation program. It's more like tweaking. I find that it is very much like working with the engine of The Orchestra, where I also never used the instruments in a final production, but the engine for the Score is improved in many respects over The Orchestra to the point where I see The Score emerging as something more than a fun toy—though its full potential is still not being tapped by Sonuscore, because I think they don't recognize the real value it might have as a sketching tool, preferring to pretend they can sell this to composers as a final production tool. (In reality their market is aspirational composers, I think, which may in fact be the more valuable market in terms of sales.) Another point of comparison might be the phrase libraries of Sonokinetic, but The Score is much more flexible in terms of what you can do with it compared to the phrase libraries.
 
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