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Soundbed said:
And men to women and back
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You could already transfer phrases between any instrument in the same library by copying and pasting phrases. But because the main choir and the expansion are different libraries it wasn’t possible to use the copy-paste to move from main library to expanded library or vice versa.

You can now set up full texts to load—say, each of the parts of the ordinary mass. (I’m not sure how far along you could get with that given the vowels and consonants available in Eternity.) If I understand it right you can also set up snapshots as presets, complete with loaded text and key switches, which should be easier to organize.
 
Here's my newest and latest with Genesis, Eternity and Eternity Expanded Choirs (mostly background):

Merry Christmas with Carmen Christi!

Hi, all! My newest composition and arrangement, Carmen Christi, based on an ancient Early Christian hymn: This was my first time to extensively use Genesis Children's Choir and Eternity Expanded, both by Audiobro. The style of my composition tries to mimic that of J.S. Bach (but how could...
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Anyone have any idea when the sale ends here? I’d like to not miss it with the end of the calendar year, but there are a lot of other sales during that time.
 
JamesIV said:
Any thoughts on how to approach the creation of a Dorico Expression Map for Eternity Choir?
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i don’t know how Dorico Expression maps work, but you can use the daw integration functionality to set up articulation sets for a large set of syllables in Logic. I imagine it’s similar for Cubase and so also Dorico. But the daw integration sets are not close to being comprehensive, and I‘m not sure how you’d go about creating maps for the other possible syllables. It might be a good query for AudioBro support.
 
Rewatched all the AudioBro Eternity / Genesis videos today.

That's right, I'm a NYE party animal.

The Extended Array Divisi is most interesting... somehow I managed to miss how cool that looks the first time skipping through.
 
Soundbed said:
Rewatched all the AudioBro Eternity / Genesis videos today.

That's right, I'm a NYE party animal.

The Extended Array Divisi is most interesting... somehow I managed to miss how cool that looks the first time skipping through.
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I'm not entirely clear how it works, with the 4 way divisi but you can make the choir sound very small and intimate with it, and it seems to give you quite a lot of control about which sections to use. And of course you can treat each divisi separately too, and there are presets for that.
 
jbuhler said:
I'm not entirely clear how it works, with the 4 way divisi but you can make the choir sound very small and intimate with it, and it seems to give you quite a lot of control about which sections to use. And of course you can treat each divisi separately too, and there are presets for that.
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Happy New Year!
 
I was playing with the Array patches (in the Expanded package, for anyone not aware) in the sopranos this morning.

Trying to make things sound like English words.

I can get the individual voices to sound very intimate and close.

But, when I start trying to word build the only way I was able to keep it from sounding overly disjointed was to push it back in a church or cathedral verb space.

Here is an example ... I can get it tighter and shorter. But, then the volumes jump up a bit too much for my taste. So, I have Soothe2 clamping down on those resonant vowels, which pushes them even further back into the reverb. I tried external reverb but ended up liking the sound I was getting from the built in "stage" controls and the Basilique Cathedral space more.

I could definitely get this working in context, especially if I had other instruments supporting it.

I have automated the Sustain / Staccato controls to make use of some shorter syllables and some longer syllables. And I've made some dipthongs to try to approximate what it might sound like to sing "wish you" etc.

The whole thing might sound better if I simply let the recorded Latin syllables do the work, but this exercise was specifically to figure out how far I could word build in English.

Finally, I started with everything perfectly quantized, but as the Audiobro video guides mention, sometimes it does make sense to nudge the MIDI around a little. (You probably cannot account for every single combination of consonants and vowels at every tempo for every pitch recorded.) So, the lookahead got me very close, but as I listened repeatedly with a click I did decide to nudge a few syllables later (always later) while the majority remained perfectly quantized.

Oh one more thing: I automated the "Pitchless" volumes because the sibilants and some other consonant sounds were too prominent for my taste in this context; they are usually around -6dB or so from unity (not shown in the pictures below).

"Hoppy" H AH P EE New Year to all!

🍺🍻🐰🐇

View attachment We Wish You A Merry Christmas.mp3

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Soundbed said:
I was playing with the Array patches (in the Expanded package, for anyone not aware) in the sopranos this morning.

Trying to make things sound like English words.

I can get the individual voices to sound very intimate and close.

But, when I start trying to word build the only way I was able to keep it from sounding overly disjointed was to push it back in a church or cathedral verb space.

Here is an example ... I can get it tighter and shorter. But, then the volumes jump up a bit too much for my taste. So, I have Soothe2 clamping down on those resonant vowels, which pushes them even further back into the reverb. I tried external reverb but ended up liking the sound I was getting from the built in "stage" controls and the Basilique Cathedral space more.

I could definitely get this working in context, especially if I had other instruments supporting it.

I have automated the Sustain / Staccato controls to make use of some shorter syllables and some longer syllables. And I've made some dipthongs to try to approximate what it might sound like to sing "wish you" etc.

The whole thing might sound better if I simply let the recorded Latin syllables do the work, but this exercise was specifically to figure out how far I could word build in English.

Finally, I started with everything perfectly quantized, but as the Audiobro video guides mention, sometimes it does make sense to nudge the MIDI around a little. (You probably cannot account for every single combination of consonants and vowels at every tempo for every pitch recorded.) So, the lookahead got me very close, but as I listened repeatedly with a click I did decide to nudge a few syllables later (always later) while the majority remained perfectly quantized.

Oh one more thing: I automated the "Pitchless" volumes because the sibilants and some other consonant sounds were too prominent for my taste in this context; they are usually around -6dB or so from unity (not shown in the pictures below).

"Hoppy" H AH P EE New Year to all!

🍺🍻🐰🐇

View attachment We Wish You A Merry Christmas.mp3

1704132881299.png
1704133205023.png 1704133234210.png
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While not perfect, certainly more flexible than pretty much any other choir library on the market. Nicely done!
 
Soundbed said:
I was playing with the Array patches (in the Expanded package, for anyone not aware) in the sopranos this morning.

Trying to make things sound like English words.

I can get the individual voices to sound very intimate and close.

But, when I start trying to word build the only way I was able to keep it from sounding overly disjointed was to push it back in a church or cathedral verb space.

Here is an example ... I can get it tighter and shorter. But, then the volumes jump up a bit too much for my taste. So, I have Soothe2 clamping down on those resonant vowels, which pushes them even further back into the reverb. I tried external reverb but ended up liking the sound I was getting from the built in "stage" controls and the Basilique Cathedral space more.

I could definitely get this working in context, especially if I had other instruments supporting it.

I have automated the Sustain / Staccato controls to make use of some shorter syllables and some longer syllables. And I've made some dipthongs to try to approximate what it might sound like to sing "wish you" etc.

The whole thing might sound better if I simply let the recorded Latin syllables do the work, but this exercise was specifically to figure out how far I could word build in English.

Finally, I started with everything perfectly quantized, but as the Audiobro video guides mention, sometimes it does make sense to nudge the MIDI around a little. (You probably cannot account for every single combination of consonants and vowels at every tempo for every pitch recorded.) So, the lookahead got me very close, but as I listened repeatedly with a click I did decide to nudge a few syllables later (always later) while the majority remained perfectly quantized.

Oh one more thing: I automated the "Pitchless" volumes because the sibilants and some other consonant sounds were too prominent for my taste in this context; they are usually around -6dB or so from unity (not shown in the pictures below).

"Hoppy" H AH P EE New Year to all!

🍺🍻🐰🐇

View attachment We Wish You A Merry Christmas.mp3

1704132881299.png
1704133205023.png 1704133234210.png
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Did you try the suffix ST for Christmas? I might also try crees tahs.
 
It occurred to me that the whole point of using these Array Divisi voices is to hear them singing different notes, not unison. If I wanted to hear unison I should have probably used the Sopranos all together.

With that in mind, here is the "D" Sopranos only, which ended up being my favorite of the four soprano mics.

This particular mic also had more consistent volumes, so I decided to turn off Soothe2. It will sound more close / "dry" as a result no resonance compression.

(The "Rh" sound at the end was volume automated for the group, but it's too prominent when this mic is solo imho.)

Definitely still multiple voices, but considering there were 12 women singing, only about 3 (4?) of them sound prominent.

Note I haven't even begun to touch the mod wheel so this is all at the default 50%.


View attachment We Wish You A Merry Christmas D Solo(2).mp3

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I think Eternity and Genesis choirs are some of the best virtual instruments avail, and not just amongst choirs. Eternity is allowing for realism in adult choral work that wasn’t possible for me previously. It doesn’t have that slick clean modern sound of the Eric Whitacre choirs but I find Eternity more realistic and way more flexible. It’s a powerful tool!
 
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