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"Generative AI is the greatest risk to the human creative class that has ever existed"

WORKS CREATED PRINCIPALLY THROUGH AI SHOULD NOT BE COPYRIGHTABLE
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Sadly - i know some people in digital painting start replicating image generated by AI as 'their own work' (with no to little changes to the original image). They basically just copy the generated image, put it on canvas (and hide it from recording if they doing so), and then pretend they start from scratch.

So far as I know for digital painting, if an 'artist' could provide the layered project file, they get no copyright problems 99% of time. it is more work than 'just clicking a button' but will there be any creative part? no in my mind.

AI DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO LICENSE MATERIALS AND KEEP RECORDS OF THE MATERIALS THEY USE FOR TRAINING
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it is not straight forward to prove if a material is in the training set or not. training process is not necessarily to be reproducible cuz it might involve many random factors.

It is also not just a developers problem. Some techniques for example LORA, allows users to train their own 'variation' from a base model. It requires less computing power since it starts from the solid base model. This could make the 'keep records of the materials' part even more complicated.
 
Epic Wonder said:
I always would pick the 1 million cash today because tomorrow is not promised. Yes, doing the math would yield over a billion dollars after 30 days. But is this a guarantee? Or is there any risk that I could lose some of that money after the 30 days? Just give me 1 million cash and let me live in regret later. I’d simply enjoy the 1 million cash and not worry about a possibility of 1 billion dollars after 30 days.
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one cent doubled over 30 days is 5,368,709.12 $ , one cent doubled over 31 days is 10,737,418.24 and yes for the sake of the demonstration , it is guaranteed just like nothing lethal happening to you 5 min after you get your one mil cash is also guaranteed lol . The important thing with that silly problem is how it happens : you are going to freak out with very little money for the first 3 weeks and then over the course of the 4th week it is going to skyrocket ( exponential )
 
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Post Singularity said:
one cent doubled over 30 days is 5,368,709.12 $ , one cent doubled over 31 days is 10,737,418.24 and yes for the sake of the demonstration , it is guaranteed just like nothing lethal happening to you 5 min after you get your one mil cash is also guaranteed lol . The important thing with that silly problem is how it happens : you are going to freak out with very little money for the first 3 weeks and then over the course of the 3rd week it is going to skyrocket ( exponential )
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This is why humans are often terrible at finance, and great at art - emotion. The problem is that emotion is not necessarily perceived by everyone in the same way, and so art is subjective.
 
I wouldn’t think sports journalism using ai would even matter that much - just the stats.

Between the actual athletes giving quotes about “taking it one game at a time, and giving “110%”, and thanking BuJebus for football touchdowns” and the fan base regurgitating the same cliches for decades on end whilst referring to world class athletes with peak specimen bodies as “losers” and “busts”. Why not save a few bucks?
 
TheWhat said:
I wouldn’t think sports journalism using ai would even matter that much - just the stats.
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I certainly know what you mean about the praise Jesus and give 110% talk - not that all athletes are like that by any means - but it matters just as much as journalism about any other human endeavor!
 
Nick Batzdorf said:
I certainly know what you mean about the praise Jesus and give 110% talk - not that all athletes are like that by any means - but it matters just as much as journalism about any other human endeavor!
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Yes.

Sometimes the backstories are more interesting than action on the field especially when the team has zero shot of making the playoffs.
 
I think the comments regarding branded content remaining marketable are spot on.

In fact, AI will help weed out the potential 'shit patrons' of the arts (see: basic bro/basic bitch), as these retards will inevitably consume whatever is put in front of them. Branded content, on the other hand, will generate income from grassroots fanbases consisting of human beings who can tell the difference between original art and rehashed diarrhea shat out by a computer. Furthermore, I believe the existence of shitty AI-derived content will further motivate these individuals to support original artists.

I look forward to a future where I never have to deal with the stupidity, banality, or monotony of people who embrace the status quo. Hopefully AI can help eliminate some of this trash from my reality.
 
jmauz said:
I think the comments regarding branded content remaining marketable are spot on.

In fact, AI will help weed out the potential 'shit patrons' of the arts (see: basic bro/basic bitch), as these retards will inevitably consume whatever is put in front of them. Branded content, on the other hand, will generate income from grassroots fanbases consisting of human beings who can tell the difference between original art and rehashed diarrhea shat out by a computer. Furthermore, I believe the existence of shitty AI-derived content will further motivate these individuals to support original artists.

I look forward to a future where I never have to deal with the stupidity, banality, or monotony of people who embrace the status quo. Hopefully AI can help eliminate some of this trash from my reality.
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How would you generate revenue if a large percentage of non artistic jobs are destroyed as well ? A UBI system would give people barely enough to survive and that means way less disposable income to " consume " art , most people would be busy not owning anything and be " happy " about it . There is no guarantee that there is something positive or better beyond the status quo , it could get worse ... a lot worse .
 
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How would you generate revenue if a large percentage of non artistic jobs are destroyed as well ? A UBI system would give people barely enough to survive and that means way less disposable income to " consume " art , most people would be busy not owning anything and be " happy " about it . There is no guarantee that there is something positive or better beyond the status quo , it could get worse ... a lot worse .
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A universal basic income is not going to become a reality. What will happen is that developed nations will turn to second and third world nations for most people. They will survive on whatever they can get by providing for themselves. The smart ones will just become criminals and take what they can get by force. But someone will need to provide the score and soundtrack for this film. That will be me!
 
Epic Wonder said:
A universal basic income is not going to become a reality. What will happen is that developed nations will turn to second and third world nations for most people. They will survive on whatever they can get by providing for themselves. The smart ones will just become criminals and take what they can get by force. But someone will need to provide the score and soundtrack for this film. That will be me!
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I agree that the smart ones will become violent criminals but the very few who will benefit from AI will need to find a way to keep their heads attached to their bodies until they reach the level they want for robotics and trans humanism . Their fear of dying of an horrible death before they can become " immortals " makes me think that a system like UBI + social credit score might happen
 
Post Singularity said:
I agree that the smart ones will become violent criminals but the very few who will benefit from AI will need to find a way to keep their heads attached to their bodies until they reach the level they want for robotics and trans humanism . Their fear of dying of an horrible death before they can become " immortals " makes me think that a system like UBI + social credit score might happen
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Tech is overrated and AI vastly overrated and will not solve or cause problems for most. It’s something in the background that is used when it’s convenient. It’s boring to talk about in a way because AI is not doing anything except what it is programmed to do. People are going lose fortunes investing in this stuff. The bubble is going to burst and I am glad I have no vested interest in it.
 
Epic Wonder said:
Tech is overrated and AI vastly overrated and will not solve or cause problems for most.
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In exactly one year, we've gone from no ChatGPT to real-time generative text-to-video, music, poems, voice cloning, translation, and crushing the uncanny valley so convincingly that fake AI "influencers" are now making $10K/month, and you think this is overrated?

lol.
 
Epic Wonder said:
Tech is overrated and AI vastly overrated and will not solve or cause problems for most. It’s something in the background that is used when it’s convenient. It’s boring to talk about in a way because AI is not doing anything except what it is programmed to do. People are going lose fortunes investing in this stuff. The bubble is going to burst and I am glad I have no vested interest in it.
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AMEN REVEREND!

There are some serious doom and gloom motherfuckers in here. I thought I was bad. Holy shit.

AI is just another tech tool. Will it eliminate jobs? Sure, but tech has been eliminating jobs for decades. Society will learn to adapt, survive, and thrive.

Worrying about it isn't going to help. All you're gonna do is give yourself a ulcer. Shit, there's already enough stress in this industry; give yourself a goddamn break.
 
thaeo said:
In exactly one year, we've gone from no ChatGPT to real-time generative text-to-video, music, poems, voice cloning, translation, and crushing the uncanny valley so convincingly that fake AI "influencers" are now making $10K/month, and you think this is overrated?

lol.
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Sure it's created some shit, but so what?

Please direct me to where I can read about AI influencers making $10K a month.
 
Kery Michael said:
What is happening is an industrialization of the creative process. What used to be a piece of art, produced one at a time, is now being generated by machines by the truckload.

I think we all know the difference between generic, formulaic music and music with depth and complexity. I think AI will excel at the former, not sure about the latter. But I find myself continuing to be surprised at what AI is doing with image generation. It’s very impressive.

Not allowing AI generated content to be copyrighted sounds like a good idea. That seems straightforward. But I’m not sure how you can force someone or something to acquire a license if they are going to learn or be trained by a piece of music. That is a more challenging suggestion to implement.
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This reminds me what people thought when they first heard about the photo camera. They thought it would be the killer of painters. But as an artform, painting still stands.

We humans crave to express our self. Despite more and more tools that will make it easy to create what once was craft, will not result in humans creating less art I think.
 
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