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ok, released version is out here are the changes/updates:


The new version includes the following fixes and additions:

- Sustain Pedal Issues (Fixed)
- Sequencer Graphics (Fixed)
- Sequencer Sustain Pedal Issue (Fixed)
- Sequencer goes automatically to "rest" when moved down to the "-" (Fixed)
- Trancegate / Chaos Effects (Fixed)
- New TM2 Patches added for all tempo-synced patches
 
Still do not understand why not upgrade their exisitng 6 choir libraries, but instead going with completely 'new' from the ground up :) Whta happened to the other libraries they have, old already?

Just saying :)
 
yep - took a stab - trashed the previous - NEW dl (I was thinking just the patches fixed but sample content must have been worked on.)
 
Hoping we can see a walk through with pros & cons from someone other than 8Dio if you bought it and have the chance to put one up on youtube. I'll hold out until then.
 
JanR said:
Does Insolidus go hand in hand well with Requiem sound wise? So Requiem for loud dynamics and Insolidus for softer ones (just like Metropolis ark 1 & 2 Choir). Has anyone used Insolidus and Requiem together? I'd love to know.

Also curious to know how soft the legato's and crossfade patches go. I doubt that that there is something as soft as the ppp Metropolis Ark 2 dynamic but is there something in there that goes really soft and delicate and is controllable?
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Insolidus can get really loud and powerful, it's not just soft and gentle. The main thing is that the core of Insolidus is the technique of 4-syllable phrases (although basic sustain patches are included too). Personally I think the phrase approach is the magic of this library, because it means that whatever you produce has an instant life and variability to it, rather than the static sound of a usual choir library.
 
Zhao Shen said:
No, not looking for a word builder. But a normal-sized choir would be nice. Just the idea of layering samples from a 200-person choir is a turn-off for me.
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Yea the biggest turn-off for me in this library is the choir size. I really which it was a lot smaller, once you have several lines going together it really sounds weird. However it sounds amazing and I love the fact that it focus is on the quiet size.
 
Just checked it out, very inspirational and works as advertised. I believe the odd endings in Thorsten's vids, though well intentioned can be easily fixed with the release knobs in the options page. It's not a super versatile lib, no staccs and it's a bit overkill for what it does well as it probably does not need the mass amount of syllable options, but hey why not, it does not mess with functionality...that said it just sounds and executes great.
 
5 years later ... :)

How is Insolidus and Silka regarding CPU usage? I'm planning to use them on an MacBook pro Intel i9, 2.3 Ghz, 8-core with 32 GB RAM.

I'm going to use it together with BBCSO Pro in Logic X, with all the librarys on an external SSD. BBCSO Pro works fairly well on this laptop, if I don't use many mics ...
 
Dan L said:
5 years later ... :)

How is Insolidus and Silka regarding CPU usage? I'm planning to use them on an MacBook pro Intel i9, 2.3 Ghz, 8-core with 32 GB RAM.

I'm going to use it together with BBCSO Pro in Logic X, with all the librarys on an external SSD. BBCSO Pro works fairly well on this laptop, if I don't use many mics ...
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I've never thought of those libraries as cpu intensive. I run them off an external ssd and my computer is a 2018 3.2 GHz 6 core i7 Intel Mac Mini. They do take ages to load, but that's an issue with many 8Dio libraries.
 
jtnyc said:
I've never thought of those libraries as cpu intensive. I run them off an external ssd and my computer is a 2018 3.2 GHz 6 core i7 Intel Mac Mini. They do take ages to load, but that's an issue with many 8Dio libraries.
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Ok, thanks for your answer! Comparing your processor with my MacBook pro on CPU benchmark, it looks like my Mac is just a step below yours on single thread rating, so I guess it would be quite similar using Insolidus/Silka on my Mac.

What system are your SSD formatted with? I have read that 8dios librarys loads faster if the drive is formatted with Mac OS (Journaled).
 
Insolidus does use Time Machine, so it's a bit more memory processor intensive that a typical choir library.

Apparently the phrases are recorded at multiple tempos, which really does give you the illusion of being able to set the tempo over a very wide range. Though 8dio won't disclose what tempos were actually recorded, beyond confirming that it's "multiple tempos".

I've used it without any issue on a machine of much lower spec that yours. So I just wouldn't worry about CPU at all.
 
Dan L said:
Ok, thanks for your answer! Comparing your processor with my MacBook pro on CPU benchmark, it looks like my Mac is just a step below yours on single thread rating, so I guess it would be quite similar using Insolidus/Silka on my Mac.

What system are your SSD formatted with? I have read that 8dios librarys loads faster if the drive is formatted with Mac OS (Journaled).
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Yes, Mac OS (Journaled)
 
jtnyc said:
I did thanks. With some other 8dio libraries it did help, but not with Insolidus and Silka.
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It's could just be that the instrument always, necessarily useing Time Machine, which is inherently going to up the load times a bit.

Although I've had issues in the past with 8dio instruments being picky about the specific file system formatting, and I recall others have had issues with window defender picking on 8dio libraries.
 
ism said:
Insolidus does use Time Machine, so it's a bit more memory processor intensive that a typical choir library.

Apparently the phrases are recorded at multiple tempos, which really does give you the illusion of being able to set the tempo over a very wide range. Though 8dio won't disclose what tempos were actually recorded, beyond confirming that it's "multiple tempos".

I've used it without any issue on a machine of much lower spec that yours. So I just wouldn't worry about CPU at all.
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Thanks for your reply! Have you used Lacrimosa too on an computer with lower specs than mine laptop?
 
I've read some comments that the regular legatos (Ah, Eh, Oh, Uh) in Insolidu/Silka primarily are useful together with the arcs. That the legatos aren't that useful/good on their own. What's your opinion on that?
 
Dan L said:
Thanks for your reply! Have you used Lacrimosa too on an computer with lower specs than mine laptop?
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I'm afraid, I don't have Lacrimosa.

Dan L said:
I've read some comments that the regular legatos (Ah, Eh, Oh, Uh) in Insolidu/Silka primarily are useful together with the arcs. That the legatos aren't that useful/good on their own. What's your opinion on that?
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Well, when Insolidus/Sikla were $700 each, you would certainly have never
bought them for their legatos. So it's not that they're bad, just quite limited. If you're doing spend $700 on a library with which to do full intricate SATB choral compositions, this is not the right library.

Similarly the arcs, thought stunning, are also very limited, by their nature.

But when you put them together, the legato sounds great, and blend seamlessly in the context of the arcs. And the legatos significantly and greatly expand the scope of the library.

I've done some experiments, mocking up Rachmaninov for instance, with just the legato. And they're really not bad. But about 1% of the functionality of, say, Eternity choir, for this kind of work.
 
ism said:
I'm afraid, I don't have Lacrimosa.


Well, when Insolidus/Sikla were $700 each, you would certainly have never
bought them for their legatos. So it's not that they're bad, just quite limited. If you're doing spend $700 on a library with which to do full intricate SATB choral compositions, this is not the right library.

Similarly the arcs, thought stunning, are also very limited, by their nature.

But when you put them together, the legato sounds great, and blend seamlessly in the context of the arcs. And the legatos significantly and greatly expand the scope of the library.

I've done some experiments, mocking up Rachmaninov for instance, with just the legato. And they're really not bad. But about 1% of the functionality of, say, Eternity choir, for this kind of work.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the legatos! I have been looking at Eternity too, because I think Genesis sounds/seems great, but I'm uncertain about the sound of Eternity ... I'm going to wait for more videos and demos on Eternity, and maybe updates of the library, before I possibly pull the trigger on Eternity.

Back to Insolidus/Silka: I have been watching the walkthroughs on them, there's not much on the legatos (maybe I've missed something as well). I don't have any dedicated choir library yet, and think I'm going to buy Insolidus/Silka. But earlier this year I was considering NI:s Choir Omnia, because I like the sound in the demos/walkthroughs and the fact it has separate SATB, but reports of tuning issues in the basses etc, made me hesitant.

I know Eternity have separate sections for SATB, and auto-divisi, and probably different settings to tweak the legatos? But in your opinion – what would be the main differences between the legatos of Eternity and Insolidus?
 
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