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Gedren
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@Ferenc Bátri , is your music your main career/job? I know you are also very good in tech)
Ryan Leach October 2023 Composing Competition
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Ferenc Bátri
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It's not, I've been a designer (graphics, motion, and 3D) for 24 years but music has always been with me in a certain way
Ferenc Bátri
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Thank you very much, I'm glad you shared your opinion. I still like complex things, and often hard to decode my stuff with a single listening, I know wellThe YT posting here sounds way better than the reproduction in the livestream today, although I agree with the comment that the overall mix is a little on the dark side (of the moon maybe
The beginning has a reminiscence of Ravel's Lever du Jour from Daphnis et Chloé, might very well be that that music was somewhere in your thoughts too. I do not quite agree with the comments of missing a theme; there is thematic material in your piece only not on the foreground but more subtle hidden in the overall instrumentation. And that asks for a repeated listening to recognize, it is not wham bam sing the theme along with me... reminds me a bit of Debussy's orchestral music. Short thematic material, or better said, short motives, it can very well be, also depends on the purpose of the music. There is no right or wrong in this.
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>complex things, and not recognized or appreciated on first listeningThank you very much, I'm glad you shared your opinion. I still like complex things, and often hard to decode my stuff with a single listening, I know well
In this regard we can shake hands...
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Do you have some paid music projects, I hope?It's not, I've been a designer (graphics, motion, and 3D) for 24 years but music has always been with me in a certain way
Because you just win contests after contests
You should earn money with music!
Ferenc Bátri
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Do you have some paid music projects, I hope?
Because you just win contests after contests
It's funny.. one of the advertising agencies where I used to work recently asked me for a price quote for one music of a TVC, this is very interesting but to be honest, in general, I'm not that interested, I'm doing well in the creative industry (sometimes I hate... I don't want this with music too...). I earn money with design and spend it on libraries and synthesizers... oh no, today is black Friday at Orchestral Tools :DDD
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Breakdown video:Contratulations on 2nd place, @Ferenc Bátri! I really believed you would win this one! It's insane how high the skill level is for these competitions, one after the other just sounded like a finalist...
Could you (or someone else) perhaps clarify if that style of music writing you did on your submission has a particular name? Personally, I often tend to go the "AABA" way, with a specific melody being used all the way through - but the way your track is made sound so sophisticated and pleasant, very dynamic and evolving - but without a very clear melodic theme. Would love to be able to write like that, but have trouble understanding the "structure" of it...
Hope you will be making another breakdown video!
When a piece of music doesn't have repetitions, i.e. there is no section that is repeated, it's called "through-composed", which I guess comes from German, "durchkomponiert", which sounds so much more natural.Contratulations on 2nd place, @Ferenc Bátri! I really believed you would win this one! It's insane how high the skill level is for these competitions, one after the other just sounded like a finalist...
Could you (or someone else) perhaps clarify if that style of music writing you did on your submission has a particular name? Personally, I often tend to go the "AABA" way, with a specific melody being used all the way through - but the way your track is made sound so sophisticated and pleasant, very dynamic and evolving - but without a very clear melodic theme. Would love to be able to write like that, but have trouble understanding the "structure" of it...
Hope you will be making another breakdown video!
Through-composed music - Wikipedia
A good example is Schubert's song, "Erlkönig". I'd say that "La Marseillese" qualifies too. And Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody", I think also qualifies.
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Congratulations @Ferenc Bátri! Well done and we'll deserved! And thank you for sharing your Breakdown Video -- it's always great to see/hear how others work. It was really fun to hear some of the instruments such as dulcimer/guitar that are not out front but add texture. Also, loved the graphics! Cheers --
Congratulations @Ferenc Bátri! Well done and we'll deserved! And thank you for sharing your Breakdown Video -- it's always great to see/hear how others work. It was really fun to hear some of the instruments such as dulcimer/guitar that are not out front but add texture. Also, loved the graphics! Cheers --
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Ferenc Bátri
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Thank you so much. I shared with pleasure, and glad that my entry still has a bit of an 'afterlife'
Hi Harry, just getting back to this now. I didn't want to hijack the thread earlier and step on Ferenc's moment
Actually, the clarinets are a mixture of live sample playing and some loops (said sheepishly). The loops were "sliced and diced" within Logic's sampler and then made into a VST instrument. This gave me the ability to have the live feel AND create the melodic line I wanted (via pitch shifting, etc). I also mixed in some 'live' playing using Kontakt's solo clarinet throughout, adding harmony here and there as well as by itself during the loud 'chorus' section.
I don't often use loops (if ever), but in this case using them in a highly customized way as I did, I felt okay about it. In all honesty, short of hiring a session player, it is very difficult to achieve that level of realistic solo playing -- particularly in that style. But I say -- whatever it takes!!
Thanks for sharing your ARO piece, I enjoyed it very much and do love that library. I have found however that the ARO samples with the default mics are incredibly 'wet.' It is very easy to end up with a smeared mess if one doesn't pay extra attention to gain staging I feel. I like to experiment around with different mics positions on different instruments (close. tree. outriggers, etc), sometimes automating mic changes throughout a piece.
Cheers!
