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Is there a standard or established Syllabus or Curriculum for Composition?

Another tip I will add from my experience is that all students who have trouble with music theory have trouble for the same reason: they can't spell their scales. Be able to verbally spell all of your scales. Start with major. Put them in a hat and draw them out randomly. You have ten seconds to be able to verbalize the scale aloud: A B C# D E F# G# A. After you can do that in ten seconds, do it faster. Then, spell them verbally (and I do mean out loud) up and down in under ten seconds: A B C# D E F# G# A G# F# E D C# B A.

You might think this is silly, but it forces you to internalize these scales and know them like your name. After you can do major, add minor, then harmonic minor, then melodic minor. Then do the modes. Every freshman class I taught did this. We had live competitions in front of everyone. This is what earned me the moniker "Dr. Evil," but I never had a student fail music theory.
 
You could do worse than looking at the syllabuses for GCSE and A Level Music as a starting point:



In the A level syllabus, you'll find the Appraising Music section which has a list of various types of elements of music, and elements of seven different types of music. Composition Assessment Grids will give you a sense of what examiners are looking for, which is a fairly decent pointer to what's important.
 
Would you recommend these for someone who knows (or thinks he knows) the basics of music theory? Sure, I can write a piece using my ears and the little knowledge I have, but I'd like to have a more solid bank of knowledge at my disposal when writing. A study book with exercises seems right up my alley...
If you can read the basics (rhythm and notes) then I fully recommend the course. Work at the exercises dilligently and regularly and you'll soon see improvement. I'm autodidactic and could find my way through the books fine but perhaps you might need someone to look over the exercises to check you are on the right path. Here's the first and third year books online, check the intro and contents in this preview....
https://archive.org/details/firstyearharmony00love/page/n1/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/thirdyearharmony0000will

here's an exercise book, very useful to go through as supplementary work and it's free....

https://archive.org/details/Harmony108Excercices/mode/2up

Links to the other 2 books in the course..
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31196726072&searchurl=sortby=17&tn=second+year+harmony&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-image2

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31196720697&searchurl=sortby=17&tn=third+year+harmony&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-image2

In the end you should be grounded in chromatic harmony, voice leading and counterpoint, although I also recommend his book 'Free Counterpoint' later on in the course. Here it is for free, but don't start it yet as you need a solid grounding first..



Take your time, these courses demand slow and consistent work and practice, just the way it should be. If you don't absorb and master the chapters carefully and thoroughly before moving on, the study will be less effective for you.
The trick as always is to make this study relevant to your own voice so think of this as the composer's equivalent of the scales and arpeggios an instrumentalist has to master.
 
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My theory classes were mostly just a lab where everyone put their partwriting examples on the board, and then the entire class tore them apart. This provided some serious incentive to come to class and do the homework. It was very effective, though the students did call me "Dr. Evil."
Ha, this reminds me of my aural skills class freshman year of college when the professor would make each student go up and play an exercise on the piano and sing solfege. We had a similar nickname for him, but he was also one of the best teachers I've ever had and I got way better at aural skills from that class. The fear of god really made me practice those solfege exercises a lot harder!
 
Ha, this reminds me of my aural skills class freshman year of college when the professor would make each student go up and play an exercise on the piano and sing solfege. We had a similar nickname for him, but he was also one of the best teachers I've ever had and I got way better at aural skills from that class. The fear of god really made me practice those solfege exercises a lot harder!
In Finance back when I was studying, our lecturer would always ask a question some time during the lecture; look up at us 300 students in the auditorium and then settle on a person at random who should answer. If that person couldn’t answer, he/she should then point at another student who should then try and answer.

It was very uncomfortable to attend his class :eek:
 
Ha, this reminds me of my aural skills class freshman year of college when the professor would make each student go up and play an exercise on the piano and sing solfege. We had a similar nickname for him, but he was also one of the best teachers I've ever had and I got way better at aural skills from that class. The fear of god really made me practice those solfege exercises a lot harder!
I figured out as an undergraduate from a few sadistic professors that nothing motivates like being on the hot seat. After my first semester of dealing with lackadaisical students, I reflected on my time in the hot seat and changed my approach. By the end of their fourth semester, they all composed passacaglias for string quartet, and we played them in a concert. It was great fun. Bwhahaha!!!
 
Thank you for making this thread and for everyone who posted a constructive reply.

I find myself in your shoes OP. I have some basic equipment and basic theory knowledge from playing guitar in bands for the past 15 years, what I don't have is money for courses.

I'm not looking for shortcuts, or a 5 page pdf telling me "how to become a Hollywood composer". I have a very demanding full-time job, but I would like to spend my free time composing, instead of struggling and thinking "what if I started all this when I was 6?".

I believe there is a mid point between miracle promising 5 page pdf files and master degrees in composition. A list of "must know" things would be great as a starting point. Again, I am not asking to be fed with information, I am asking to be pointed to the right direction. If the only right direction is to enrol at a BA for Composition and Orchestration, then maybe I missed my chance.
 
Thank you for making this thread and for everyone who posted a constructive reply.

I find myself in your shoes OP. I have some basic equipment and basic theory knowledge from playing guitar in bands for the past 15 years, what I don't have is money for courses.

I'm not looking for shortcuts, or a 5 page pdf telling me "how to become a Hollywood composer". I have a very demanding full-time job, but I would like to spend my free time composing, instead of struggling and thinking "what if I started all this when I was 6?".

I believe there is a mid point between miracle promising 5 page pdf files and master degrees in composition. A list of "must know" things would be great as a starting point. Again, I am not asking to be fed with information, I am asking to be pointed to the right direction. If the only right direction is to enrol at a BA for Composition and Orchestration, then maybe I missed my chance.
Pay 60 bucks a month and sign up for Score Club!
 
Pay 60 bucks a month and sign up for Score Club!
Sure, it is incredibly well constructed however I would personally hold off until you have a really solid grasp of the fundamentals including sight reading and Music Theory 101.

I started ScoreClub 6 months ago and got lost quite quickly and cancelled/paused the subscription. Since then I've spent maybe 100 hours on music theory including notation, harmony, counterpoint, solfège, interval ear training and score analysis. I'm getting closer to starting it again in the next few months. I can't spell all the scales, and whilst I've memorised the Circle of Fifths and understand the structure I still have to 'calculate' each scale by visualising the CoF.. work in progress.

That's my personal experience.
 
I've actually been indexing 100's of YouTube videos, enrolled training courses (like Pillars of Composition), purchased pdf books (like the Spectratone chart) in Zotera so that I can attack a specific topic (say 2nd Species Counterpoint) and get several different lectures and reference books on the subject.

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You can see on the left hand panel all of the Tags I've added, so I could search for all information on 17th Century Counterpoint or John Williams Score Analysis etc

I'm collating a list covering Music Theory, Composition and Orchestration. I've got maybe 200 tagged and cross referenced items so far!!

Much easier to use than the 100's of YouTube Playlists and bookmarks... it works pretty well since each item is a hyperlink to the pdf or Youtube video. There's also a Chrome extension which makes adding Blogs, videos or webpages very quick to add to the database!
 
Sure, it is incredibly well constructed however I would personally hold off until you have a really solid grasp of the fundamentals including sight reading and Music Theory 101.

I started ScoreClub 6 months ago and got lost quite quickly and cancelled/paused the subscription. Since then I've spent maybe 100 hours on music theory including notation, harmony, counterpoint, solfège, interval ear training and score analysis. I'm getting closer to starting it again in the next few months. I can't spell all the scales, and whilst I've memorised the Circle of Fifths and understand the structure I still have to 'calculate' each scale by visualising the CoF.. work in progress.

That's my personal experience.
Our experiences are similar. ScoreClub looks very very useful for someone who really has the basics down. I need 30 minutes to read one line of music notation in treble clef, there is no way I can follow that kind of structure yet.

Your tracking method through Zotero looks interesting, I'll see if I can do something like that for myself as well.
 
I'm on a journey to develop my compositional skills, and am keen to focus on classic composition (especially 20th century late romantic)

I've started a few courses and they all approach the subject from different starting points and cover areas in different order. I've also got some specific courses like "Composing in Sonata form". Plus, obviously I have 100's of YouTube videos covering almost every possible subject.

Option 1 is to complete each book and course in their order and then move on to the next, this is the simplest but feels a little disjointed.

Option 2 is to follow a simple curriculum and visit each relevant course/book section until I feel comfortable with it. For example Alan Belkin spends a lot of time on his YT channel discussing Functional Harmony. There are many detailed resources specifically covering Counterpoint etc.

I would also want to include orchestration in this list.

Is there a standard or established Syllabus or Curriculum for Composition? I've looked on the traditional music schools website like Berklee but they don't seem to publish a detailed course structure. I'm thinking of creating a Google Sheet with links to free and paid content.

Finally, of course a big percentage of my time is also being spent actively listening to and reading scores that I love - but I'd really like to progress in a more structured manner.

Thanks

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For what it's worth here is my first attempt at a simple structure:

Melody
Rhythmic
Tonal
Non-Chord Tones (Passing, Neighbour, Appoggiatura, Escape etc)
Melodic Forms
Period, Sentence & Ternery

Harmony
Functions
Cadences
Implied Harmony
Voicing & Inversions

Counterpoint
Species

Structure & Form
Sonata
Rondo
Minuet

Orchestration
I fully appreciate this approach. Not sure if this was a barb aimed at me. I'm not looking for a 'shortcut', merely trying to organise around 23,000 hours of learning material into a meaningful structure.

Perhaps you could share your freshman curriculum?

My approach has been to look at a concept from multiple angles and multiple teachers. There's been several instances where a lecture lost me, but a 5 min video brought the concept to life.. and of course there are the summary videos that need a 3 hour lecture to properly understand.

In fact I've spent the last 6 hours purely getting to know the Period Form and am spending the next few days simply looking through scores and identifying phrases, cadences and periods. To get me started I've got around 20 scores from Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven and Bach to analyse.

I'm also simultaneously writing some Period form to try to solidify the concept. Does that mean I'm prematurely playing at being a composer??:)



BTW I'm 46 now, so perhaps I'll be able to fly before I die!
@JimDiGritz I am 68 and am on a similar journey. I studied music when I was younger and left it behind for an academic career. Studying and playing music again has brought me so much joy and fulfillment. I appreciate your asking these questions and have benefitted from the many responses here. This is such a fantastic forum!! Thank you.
 
Don't know if it was posted already but this free resource has a basic overview of the standard theory topics

https://musictheory.pugetsound.edu/mt21c/MusicTheory.html

Although personally I'd probably do voice leading before form.
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Just to clarify how straightforward I'm finding Zotera to organise all of this information above is the 2 step process I use to catalog information that I come accross.

Now when I want to dive into Sonata Form that page along with all of the YT videos and books I own that cover this are one click away!!
 
An alternative method/approach (smarter or lazier) than the search-organize-shuffle resources is this rule of thumb: When the student is ready the teacher will appear.

For me, that usually occurs after completing a song project: someone posts a link to a resource I had never considered, a subject I had overlooked, a music matter that suddenly peaks my curiosity.

It requires rolling with the magic that comes your way as it comes = less stress IMHO; but, it all depends on your "getting behavior".

One could test it out to see if this mode tickles your fancy.
Cheers, Bill
 
I frequently wish I could forget some music lessons because I never got good enough at them to get “past” the lesson.

For instance, I still check my counterpoint when posting videos because I’d rather share a boring example that uses mediocre counterpoint — at the level I stopped learning — than share a “good” piece of music that doesn’t have decent counterpoint (within my foggy recollection of ‘the rules’).

This is to say, musical education for composition gets sort of … endless.

It’s great that you’ve got a goal:

20th century late romantic

..because after that, I was introduced to dodecaphonic, chance, unusual notation styles, algorithmic computer compositional techniques, various world music, and so on until my head was swimming.

My greatest piece of advice to learn how to write music is to write music — or, just make music that is your own — whether it’s “written down” or simply practiced/improvised and maybe recorded.

All the theory and analysis I learned was less important than the pieces I wrote, in retrospect. Writing taught me what I liked to write. Writing taught me ear training. Writing taught me how others respond to my writing (when I let them hear). Those things were more important to me than an analysis or a “musical understanding”.

feedback. You need a tutor to proof your work and point out when you've gone astray--someone to keep you on the straight and narrow. I would recommend reaching out to someone like @A.Heppelmann for private lessons.

Feedback is incredibly important. Esp counterpoint.

I think harmony, form, and orchestration are easier to teach to oneself than counterpoint and basics of composition. There is so much implicit knowledge that is conveyed in the feedback, pointing out where you are boxing yourself in, the difference between a correct solution and a good one, etc.

This is where I would have liked my education to have progressed further. I took classes and private lessons with some good and maybe great composers from some great “lineages” but I did not get as much music education out of a couple of them as I wanted. I learned more about what I call the culture of “the concert world” and stopped writing for six years. :(

My theory classes were mostly just a lab where everyone put their partwriting examples on the board, and then the entire class tore them apart.

Yep, that is a great way to progress!

You have ten seconds to be able to verbalize the scale aloud

Also memorize the orders of sharps and flats, which you might have done already if you learned circle of fifths. FCGDAEB, BEADGCF

the professor would make each student go up and play an exercise on the piano and sing solfege

Yeah, this is another good one. Stand in front of a class and sight read a middle voice in 4 part harmony using solfège while the teacher plays the other three. Nerve wracking, but educational!

And this brings me to the other greatest lesson, which is ear training. I’ve started giving my kids impromptu ear training exercises, like identifying when I play major or minor chords on the guitar. I try to trick them by playing minor chords energetically and major chords softly and slowly.

Another way to develop ear training is to “transcribe” your favorite pieces by ear into your DAW. The last piece I did was a Lupin (tv show) theme/cue, and I know I missed some inner voices, but I learned a lot. Much more than if I’d started from the midi or the score.

Anyhoo, once you develop the curriculum to write late romantic music, I’ll sign up for it. :)

Developing a curriculum is challenging. I was offered a position to be a lead instructor for a local college’s electronic music course (my main focus over the years), but I’d need to have developed the curriculum in two weeks time, and, I’d only applied to be the assistant at the time (I turned them down because it seemed like too much work for what they were paying)!
 
Developing a curriculum is challenging. I was offered a position to be a lead instructor for a local college’s electronic music course (my main focus over the years), but I’d need to have developed the curriculum in two weeks time, and, I’d only applied to be the assistant at the time (I turned them down because it seemed like too much work for what they were paying)!
My local community college (about 30 miles away) heard that I was in the area and approached me about teaching music theory. The class met 45 times throughout the semester, and I would need to attend a couple of faculty meetings plus administer the final exam. So I’d have to drive that 30 miles (60 round trip) roughly 48 times. The pay was $1700. Then they got excited and announced that they could pay me $200 more because I had a doctorate. Can you imagine?
 
My local community college (about 30 miles away) heard that I was in the area and approached me about teaching music theory. The class met 45 times throughout the semester, and I would need to attend a couple of faculty meetings plus administer the final exam. So I’d have to drive that 30 miles (60 round trip) roughly 48 times. The pay was $1700. Then they got excited and announced that they could pay me $200 more because I had a doctorate. Can you imagine?
Sadly, I can imagine.
 
I need 30 minutes to read one line of music notation in treble clef
If that's the case, I'd advise focusing on getting faster at reading music. I'd mix exercises of reading random notes (I think there's some in Kostkas workbook, but you can also use Sibelius to generate worksheets) with writing down your music (by hand preferably). Writing music is effective for both some aspects of ear training and theory.

Also, I read somewhere in Teaching Approaches in Music Theory, by Michael R. Rogers that they recommend focusing intervals really really well. The reasoning was that so much of the theoretical concepts build on intervals. It makes figuring out chords easy, for example. Just knowing what the perfect fifth and minor/major third above any note is very good.

As for counterpoint, I would actually hold off until you feel the need. Most books are heavy reading. One has to be a very dedicated person, I'd say. Having a teacher to "ease into it" is very helpful, which I assume you won't have. There's surely some good book out there with a more conversational and relaxed style, but I haven't found one yet. Tonal Counterpoint for the 21st-Century Musician by Teresa Davidian is as close as I have gotten, so I would recommend that one, when you get around to it.

For a hobbyist self-learner, I'd say learn to read music and then look at scores of your favorite composers (and be curious and search for new "favorites"), maybe coupled with books on harmony (I'd personally recommend Persichetti's book for more "fun" stuff) and instrumentation.

Most of these ideas has probably all been said already in this thread.
 
Thank you for making this thread and for everyone who posted a constructive reply.

I find myself in your shoes OP. I have some basic equipment and basic theory knowledge from playing guitar in bands for the past 15 years, what I don't have is money for courses.

I'm not looking for shortcuts, or a 5 page pdf telling me "how to become a Hollywood composer". I have a very demanding full-time job, but I would like to spend my free time composing, instead of struggling and thinking "what if I started all this when I was 6?".

I believe there is a mid point between miracle promising 5 page pdf files and master degrees in composition. A list of "must know" things would be great as a starting point. It was not always easy for me to study, I sometimes asked my classmates for help, and then I find https://mysupergeek.com/assignment-help-service, they gave me tips and advice on how to do some of my projects correctly. Again, I am not asking to be fed with information, I am asking to be pointed to the right direction. If the only right direction is to enrol at a BA for Composition and Orchestration, then maybe I missed my chance.
I've been a guitarist since I was 6. After finishing music school, I stashed my guitar away in the garage for a year, then retrieved it. I adore solfeggio. I can still play any melody by ear. But music is just a hobby for me, and only for myself... I'm kind of peculiar; I have talent, I have the necessary foundation, but I don't want to share... I wonder if there's anyone else like me.
 
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