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Darthmorphling
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I fully agree. My thinking here is to combine a specific technique, with a certain style. This way if we focus on ostinati, we won't have someone doing an epic track and another doing a Mozart style ostinati.
Doing the Epic of Epics with the Epic chord progression(6-4-1-5) gives us a specific focus, the progression, and sends us all in the same direction.
We could also do this:
Ostinati + string quartet
Ostinati + Epicness
6-4-1-5 + ballad
etc...
Doing it this way opens up many opportunities to practice the same technique in my different ways.
I fully agree. My thinking here is to combine a specific technique, with a certain style. This way if we focus on ostinati, we won't have someone doing an epic track and another doing a Mozart style ostinati.
Doing the Epic of Epics with the Epic chord progression(6-4-1-5) gives us a specific focus, the progression, and sends us all in the same direction.
We could also do this:
Ostinati + string quartet
Ostinati + Epicness
6-4-1-5 + ballad
etc...
Doing it this way opens up many opportunities to practice the same technique in my different ways.
My problem with that is writing Epic of Epics require skils in *everything* (ostinati, percussion, dynamic, etc). So that's why I suggested to exercises in ostinati, etc first before putting them all together.
Regarding the style I did suggested some rules:
I'll be fine if someone does an epic, quartet, [insert any style] piece, because you know, perhaps someone only has an epic library he won't miss out the ostinati exercise.
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Darthmorphling
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I'm ok with this. This is looking like the next project unless someone violently objects.
David Chappell
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I have no quarrel with doing this. I really like the notion of the mellow--bombastic ... there's no loud without quiet after all :D
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Darthmorphling
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I've been on a Breaking Bad hiatus, but now it's time to think about the next project.
I'm leaning towards the percussion idea. Maybe we can have a continuation of the ostinato project. Not redoing the last piece, but taking what we learned with that piece and combining it with a focus on percussion.
Let me know what you think.
Don
I'm leaning towards the percussion idea. Maybe we can have a continuation of the ostinato project. Not redoing the last piece, but taking what we learned with that piece and combining it with a focus on percussion.
Let me know what you think.
Don
paulmatthew
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I would jump on board with this. I love percussion and it would be a perfect project for me to jump in on. Percussion has my vote . Maybe do it similar to the ostinato project , having the percussion go from small and relaxed to buliding up to bombastic . I gotta start somewhere or I'm never going to get better. Regardless , I may even jump in for the ostinato learning project .
David Chappell
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I'd be good with doing a percussion project. perhaps like in the style of some of those trailer albums that are drums only? Or at least where the percussion is the predominant feature with lower emphasis on the melodic instruments
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Darthmorphling
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I was looking at this sort of like a build up to a more in-depth project where all of the techniques we have worked on come together.
I think using what we learned with the ostinato, and then focusing on the percussive aspect will start that process. Obviously percussion will be the main focus, but I think we should also allow rhythmic use of instruments as well. More like enhancing the percussion.
I think using what we learned with the ostinato, and then focusing on the percussive aspect will start that process. Obviously percussion will be the main focus, but I think we should also allow rhythmic use of instruments as well. More like enhancing the percussion.
How about a project that you can only use sounds recorded around the home, or anywhere in the environment. These can then be processed and mixed how you like to make up a cool song.
When you are finished, we then have to list what we recorded and how we went about processing the sounds.
Would be an interesting exercise.
When you are finished, we then have to list what we recorded and how we went about processing the sounds.
Would be an interesting exercise.
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Darthmorphling
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Just got a bit burned out on music recently. I did get Cinebrass this weekend though so we'll get one started next weekend?
I got a suggestion about the low to high dynamics in a PM. We could do that and incorporate the Epic chord progression idea. Doesn't mean it has to be epic though, just using the specific progression.
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Darthmorphling
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I'll add this to the idea list.
David Chappell
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I'd be cool with that.
I had a couple more ideas (since most of the projects have been more on the epic side of things):
Adventure theme
Love theme
Or (sort of continuing from the suggestion of recording stuff lying around):
Sample an instrument and then compose a track using it. Then we can share the VIs we make and try them out too!
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Darthmorphling
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It seems as if more people want to participate in these so I will start one by the end of the day PST.
I really like the idea of doing an adventure theme, but that one really intimidates me as to me, adventure = Indy theme. Would like to tackle it once I get more comfortable with Cinebrass.
The love theme idea seems a bit more manageable.
Let's do a love theme. Here are my suggestions:
1. Can be happy, or tragic,
2. Strings and winds only. Maybe a solo horn?
3. Must have a main melody, and there must be a section where there is a countermelody to the main.
Strings are not limited to orchestral strings, but any stringed instrument. Piano included.
I will make this official later so any suggestions before hand are welcome.
Don
I really like the idea of doing an adventure theme, but that one really intimidates me as to me, adventure = Indy theme. Would like to tackle it once I get more comfortable with Cinebrass.
The love theme idea seems a bit more manageable.
Let's do a love theme. Here are my suggestions:
1. Can be happy, or tragic,
2. Strings and winds only. Maybe a solo horn?
3. Must have a main melody, and there must be a section where there is a countermelody to the main.
Strings are not limited to orchestral strings, but any stringed instrument. Piano included.
I will make this official later so any suggestions before hand are welcome.
Don
kmlandre
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Hi Don-
By "a section where there is a countermelody", do you mean a "B" section, or do you mean an "A" section where there is a dominant contrapuntal melody to the primary theme?
Thx,
Kurt M. Landre
http://www.SoundCloud.com/kmlandre
David Chappell
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I'm not sure it has to be limited to just strings/winds... obviously they will be the bulk of the arrangement but there may well be a place for the rest of the orchestra.
I would say, thinking of a love theme, the development in emotional intensity is the most important factor, at least going by the love themes I can think of. Typically a faint, haunting start that gets stronger and stronger until a lovely climax as true love gets its first kiss. Awww.
Either way. I think this should be a pretty fun one to do. Get more on the quiet side of things :D
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Darthmorphling
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You can have an A and B section. One of them should have another contrasting melody underneath it. So I guess I mean "An "A" section where there is a dominant contrapuntal melody to the primary theme?"
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Darthmorphling
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We can scrap the limited instruments and include the entire orchestra. There just seems to be a debate as to how broad we make these. Since you have been a regular contributor your input is very welcome!
