Nope—I'm always open to suggestions and I do implement features on either personal whim or by request. The new features is mostly targeting the larger stuff, like the macros stuff I've been working on for the last little bit.If I had to guess, he probably stopped posting here as to not encourage free suggestions, since implementing new features is part of the "pro" tier.
Sorry for not being so present. As mentioned, this is a solo passion project. When my time gets tied up with life, my kids or other work, Patchboard's development tends to slow down temporarily. That said, I never stop responding to emails and I do my best to provide direct and detailed support, as many here have attested to. I'm not an active VI-Control user; I only noticed this thread again because @Hans-Peter mentioned people were having issues.
You've hit the nail on the head for what I intended. Honestly, I would love to reduce the price substantially. The price frustrates me too. I want people who are just starting out or even hobbyists to have access to these kind of tools. I've been mulling over potentially a feature-limited entry tier or free version, perhaps. The only thing that gives me pause, though: I don't believe I'd be able to support the community well if it ballooned in size.I've being trying to understand the pricing for a while now, and think I finally get why it's so expensive. Rather than buying an app, it's seems like you're buying into a developer. Almost like group-hiring a freelance programmer - something I guess most of us aren't really used to. Particularly as the upper tiers appear to offer custom development, which is cool. I guess the end result is a small customer-base and a much more personal service.
If you look at it like that, the customer reviews seem to be great. The developer appears to be nice and offer great support so I'd like to think the product will be around for a while. However, I've seen many one-man-developer apps stop development after just a few years. Even Lemur appeared to go on hiatus for a long while (but was considerably cheaper, so I wasn't bothered).
The price frustrates me too (especially as music is currently a side thing and not my day job). I can already do half of these things with Open Stage Control/Metagrid, so the improvement isn't going to 10x my workflow (it'll just be a little more enjoyable). And since I'd want to buy a touchscreen monitor to get the most from it, that takes the total cost to nearly half a month's average take-home salary (UK). That's not including the time to set up because the lower tier doesn't include presets.
I'll keep watching development with a keen eye. I'm really interested to see where this app goes with further development. There’s clearly a desire for this type of workflow, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we even see the bigger DAW developers creating similar apps in the future too.
To some extent, the price is high to artificially limit the user base. That way, I can support everyone fully. The highest tier is effectively a dedicated support contract. The people who paid for that have my personal cell. I received a phone call just last week first thing in the morning to fix an issue. I was screen sharing this week into another composer's rig on Saturday at midnight to fix some strange network issues they were having. Not a Patchboard problem, it turns out, but it was preventing it from working.
I suspect I could double the number of users by halving the price, but I'm not sure I could do much more than 2x users. Then I'd be supporting 2x the number of people, for basically the same pay.
As you said, what people are really paying for is me and the ability to influence the future direction and development of Patchboard. In an ideal world, it's like having a in-house developer shared between everyone who's bought in.
This is a good idea and would be really easy to add as a preference! The reason the empty column sticks around is because the Layouts were added originally to make it so things didn't move around on screen and you could rely on muscle memory. If an empty column disappeared, the visual layout on screen might change. I agree it's a nice to have option, though, and would probably be how I'd personally choose to work.May I suggest a small improvement?
It would be nice if Layout Zones only be displayed when there is articulation in it. So when empty=hidden
Ex. I have a Violin patch that does not contains legato, so there's no legato column. So we don't need to create a specific layout setup for it
For what it's worth, the Cubase support is no longer based on Eucon and hasn't been for a couple of years now. I wrote a custom Remote plug-in for Cubase that functions like the Logic plug-in. I'm very curious about this new Control API. Embarrassingly, it's the first I've heard of it!But the one feature that cannot be done without serious programming skills (vs just scripting in Lemur) is the integration in Cubase. Unfortunely, Cubase has a very aged control protocol that doesn't allow what works here by a hack of the Eucon protocol: patchboard knows your track selection simply by the name you give to each track. That does not work with Generic Remote or any other control protocol available for Cubase.
But as we all know, Cubase 12 is coming soon and it is gonna have a new Control API. That is why I am waiting for that new version to hit the shelves. If it allows for a similar control integration without any Eucon hacks, I will save some money and just upgrade. If it doesn't, I will have to swallow the patchboard pill and get the basic version just in order to get that one functionality, that is indeed a game changer, so far ...
There's no real certainty there, unfortunately. If I get hit by a bus, eventually things will break. Maybe Cubase updates and the plug-in no longer works. Same thing with Pro Tools. Browsers change and all of a sudden the UI doesn't look right. (This actually just happened with Chrome on Android, perhaps. Still need to test but got a report that something is amiss there.) Since the software around it keeps changing, it needs to be kept alive as well.As the app is essentially browser based, as well as a controller plugin in the DAW, it is fairly well insulated from getting EOL'd - even if the dev goes away - but not 100 % certain I guess. As far as new user frictions, none that I can speak to.
No offense taken! The price is absurd. That $2500 comes with free hugs and emotional support at all hours of the day over the phone. I even would swing by LA studios in person in the before times. It's really intended for a small subset of people. I should probably retire that highest tier because I don't want to be doing that level of hands-on support these days.The price for this is absurd. It appears the developer's also been AWOL since August(?) and the site still says ©2021 which seems strange for an app with the same entry price as many flagship DAWs, and a top tier price point of $2500. No offense intended, but after seeing video and checking the pricing I was sticker shocked to say the least.
The copyright isn't updated because I'm lazy and I didn't know anyone actually noticed or cared. But I will update it now as a symbol of my devotion to you and the cause.