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Why did you leave Cubase?

ALittleNightMusic said:
I think my template is getting too big and Cubase just sucks up CPU even with nothing going on with that template loaded. I wish Cubase had a better track preset approach that saved routing and expression map settings. Then I would use the browser of presets to build up my template with just the needed tracks. So far only Studio One does this perfectly.
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Weird, that's not my experience at all. I have a 10 year old 5270k CPU and have a 3200+ disabled track template with 108 busses, 25 FX returns (18 instances of Berlin Studio verb and misc FX non disabled) and 25 stems (each with an instance of Waves L3-LL non disabled) and Cubase uses very neglegible CPU. Did you check the option to have VST3 instances not use CPU when no audio is present? I think it's disabled by default.

I am in awe at how stable and smooth it is, these days, on my system. I do run Windows 11 though, that might be important. I have no idea how it is on Mac.

I do however agree on a better track preset system. Here's hoping Cubase 13 will bring some much needed, long standing improvements this time.
 
Crossroads said:
Weird, that's not my experience at all. I have a 10 year old 5270k CPU and have a 3200+ disabled track template with 108 busses, 25 FX returns (18 instances of Berlin Studio verb and misc FX non disabled) and 25 stems (each with an instance of Waves L3-LL non disabled) and Cubase uses very neglegible CPU. Did you check the option to have VST3 instances not use CPU when no audio is present? I think it's disabled by default.

I am in awe at how stable and smooth it is, these days, on my system. I do run Windows 11 though, that might be important. I have no idea how it is on Mac.

I do however agree on a better track preset system. Here's hoping Cubase 13 will bring some much needed, long standing improvements this time.
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I'm on a M2 Max Mac Studio and the starting CPU for my disabled template is about 15-20% already. VST3 option is turned on. Cubase, unlike Logic, keeps bus FX active even if you don't have audio running through them. You can manually disable them, but that's pretty annoying when you want to quickly send to a reverb bus and then realize nothing is happening. Steinberg also doesn't want to support VST2 for Apple Silicon which means a number of plugins don't show up for me unless I want to run in Rosetta mode. Lot of things to like about Cubase, but right now I've switched back to Logic mostly.
 
Cubase has many flaws, and its interface is so dated it’s almost comical. But for me, it’s just too good for film/tv scoring, and even though I have tried to leave (GUI was the main reason) and can work complete tv series in Ableton, i keep coming back to Cubase. I have a lot of optimism for its future as well, it’s such an amazing machine.
 
ALittleNightMusic said:
I'm on a M2 Max Mac Studio and the starting CPU for my disabled template is about 15-20% already. VST3 option is turned on. Cubase, unlike Logic, keeps bus FX active even if you don't have audio running through them. You can manually disable them, but that's pretty annoying when you want to quickly send to a reverb bus and then realize nothing is happening. Steinberg also doesn't want to support VST2 for Apple Silicon which means a number of plugins don't show up for me unless I want to run in Rosetta mode. Lot of things to like about Cubase, but right now I've switched back to Logic mostly.
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Hmmm, it shouldn't leave bus FX active when there's no audio running through them. But that is a VST3 option, however I am not sure how these operate on Mac, and whether they have the full functionality.

In my template, on Windows 11, they use no CPU at all. and there are more than 50+ FX in my template at any given time.
 
The only issue I have with Cubase is the dang clip based editing. I'm pretty well good with it for audio, but the midi clips thing just slows me down, always having to make sure I'm looking at the right thing, gluing clips together constantly. Tho, once I've a got the clip under control I really like the midi editing tools.

I might be crazy (no doubt), but I work in multiple DAWs and seem to get way better mixes in Cubase. That includes Protools and other DAWs. When I'm not composing I pick up occasional production mixing projects (to stay close to clients) and I'm occasional stuck mixing in a video production studios with their rig, which is always ProTools.
 
I've had no troubles with Cubase either. Running Cubase Pro 12 on an old 5820K (80Gb DDR4) with Windows 10 pro. Not a massive template, probably just hundreds of tracks as opposed to thousands, but with the tracks disabled until needed, it loads fast and I've had zero crashes or problems, in fact I can't remember the last time it crashed. I've been using Cubase since the first Windows version in the early 90s.

I would say my projects can get a bit messy and it would be good to be able to organise them in the hub better (perhaps with star of favourite tagging), but I suppose most software in a creative field can get a bit messy pretty quickly.

Overall I personally love Cubase. Maybe it's different if coming to it as a new user though?
and I can understand the frustration if your computer is crashing, but I think this will apply to any DAW.
 
LostintheBardo said:
Has S1 made many inroads in terms of catching up to Cubase in film scoring/video support capabilities?
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In short, no. No multiple marker tracks, no Dolby atmos, no multiple mix consoles, poor implementation of CC lanes....yeah, I'm sure PreSonus thinks so, but not really. If you're seriously working in film scoring, with all the hangups Cubase has, it's still the better choice.
 
I started with C64 and Pro24 passing by Yamaha QX1 ..... I am and remain on Cubase !

I did not receive any free products from Steinberg or SpitefireAudio :emoji_slight_smile:
 
myfeltgood said:
In short, no. No multiple marker tracks, no Dolby atmos, no multiple mix consoles, poor implementation of CC lanes....yeah, I'm sure PreSonus thinks so, but not really. If you're seriously working in film scoring, with all the hangups Cubase has, it's still the better choice.
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Thanks, makes me all the more glad I grabbed Cubase last Friday. Really enjoying it so far with the usual teething issues that come with any new DAW of course.
 
I think as long as your not asking cubase to make a cup of coffee, you can pretty much bend Cubase to your will

All the glitches and issues users talk about can be found one way or another on every other DAW.and software.

Not saying Stienberg should not address existing issues they should,

But we are normally saying that about alot of software we use and often find a new version is developed but the existing was left with a ton of bugs,

Is this the norm now I wonder,

In saying this we are able to do way more and above with the software even though it has bugs or glitches..

But it is encouraging when developers are on it and bring out frequent updates, to make things more stable and sort out bugs, OTs is a good example of this.
 
novaburst said:
I think as long as your not asking cubase to make a cup of coffee, you can pretty much bend Cubase to your will
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Long long ago a user emphasized how "feature rich" Cubase had become. Really...the only extra wish he had is if Cubase came with a pony. As a child he always wanted a pony.

Upon next release, Cubase released the Track Pictures feature.

Wish granted.
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I wonder when we will see the next Cubase update. Cubase 12 released March 2022. I guess they did away with the .5 releases, so maybe now we're on a two year cycle?
 
greggybud said:
Long long ago a user emphasized how "feature rich" Cubase had become. Really...the only extra wish he had is if Cubase came with a pony. As a child he always wanted a pony.

Upon next release, Cubase released the Track Pictures feature.

Wish granted.
:dancer:
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Cubase seems to be missing what for me are major features that other DAWs have. To edit MPE polyphonic pitch bend you have to use the Note Expression editor, which has no indication of where semitones are, no option to show values in terms of cents, and apparently no way to edit using nodes instead of trying to draw it in. There's also no option to have the pitch bend curve superimposed over the notes so you can quickly see the pitch bend for all of them---you have to double click on each note and open a separate window to see it.

I guess a partial workaround might be to use 15 separate midi tracks, one for each channel, and send them all to the same instrument, which would let you use the Key Editor for pitch bend.

Also, Steinberg hasn't said anything about fixing Cubase 12 so it will definitely work with Intel 12th gen or later. I haven't yet had anyone confirm that Cubase 12 is working for them with Intel 12th gen on a laptop with the standard version of Windows 11.
 
Jimbo 88 said:
The only issue I have with Cubase is the dang clip based editing. I'm pretty well good with it for audio, but the midi clips thing just slows me down, always having to make sure I'm looking at the right thing, gluing clips together constantly. Tho, once I've a got the clip under control I really like the midi editing tools.

I might be crazy (no doubt), but I work in multiple DAWs and seem to get way better mixes in Cubase. That includes Protools and other DAWs. When I'm not composing I pick up occasional production mixing projects (to stay close to clients) and I'm occasional stuck mixing in a video production studios with their rig, which is always ProTools.
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Re: Clip based editing.

Is there another way? Does this behave better in other DAWs? I thought Studio One and Pro Tools work the exact same way.
 
dylanmixer said:
Why? And what are you switching to if I might ask?
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I apologize, this was a failed attempt at humor. As I've implied in my post, I'll be upgrading to Nuendo as I do very much like Cubase as a software, though it lacks some functionality that would make my life much more bearable. Such as mass export of events and more dedicated video capabilities.

The 'thing' I had enough of was exporting 400-odd processed sound files of differing lengths by hand. The 'humor' would be that I'm upgrading to Nuendo, which is arguably a glorified version of Cubase.
 
Crowe said:
I apologize, this was a failed attempt at humor. As I've implied in my post, I'll be upgrading to Nuendo as I do very much like Cubase as a software, though it lacks some functionality that would make my life much more bearable. Such as mass export of events and more dedicated video capabilities.

The 'thing' I had enough of was exporting 400-odd processed sound files of differing lengths by hand. The 'humor' would be that I'm upgrading to Nuendo, which is arguably a glorified version of Cubase.
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If it makes you feel any better I got the joke 100%...
 
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