NYC Composer
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It’s just instinct, but I have a feeling Ventura might be better for Intel Macs like mine.
MacOS Sonoma is here. What's working/Not working
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storyteller
Senior Member
I have three 2020 iMacs in my studio (in addition to a few others that are not Sonoma-compatible). Two running VEPro servers, one VEPro + DAW. Sonoma has been a much better performer to me than Ventura or Big Sur. I am using Reaper for my DAW though, so I am unsure about other DAWs performance.
motomotomoto
Active Member
No doubt Sonoma is great but not eve
im sure Sonoma is amazing but not even Kontakt is supported yet
Calagan
Active Member
Most plugins (and even DAW) I use don't list yet Sonoma Compatibility.
So far, I had only minor issues with Plugin Alliance and Native Instruments.
And it seems Sonoma fixed some big issues I had with my Motu Ultralite...
I was forced to install Sonoma because an update of Monterey bricked my computer, but I'm finally glad to have Sonoma installed...
It's now been four months, a third of the way to the next macOS release (if they stick to the traditional schedule).
Okay, time for an editorial.
Okay, time for an editorial.
Calagan
Active Member
If only they could make a small pause of like 2 or 3 years in the OS release, I think everybody would be grateful to them...
Sort of like Arkansas Traveler:
Your roof is leaking, why don't you fix it?
- Because it's raining.
Then why not fix it when it stops raining?
- It doesn't leak when it stops raining.
Calagan
Active Member
They could perfectly fix the bugs and security issues during few years, without touching the core code that messes everything each time it changes..Sort of like Arkansas Traveler:
Your roof is leaking, why don't you fix it?
- Because it's raining.
Then why not fix it when it stops raining?
- It doesn't leak when it stops raining.
A bit like : fixing the holes in the roof, instead of changing the whole roof each year and spending few months without roof while it's rebuilt...
But I get your point...
They could perfectly fix the bugs and security issues during few years, without touching the core code that messes everything each time it changes..
A bit like : fixing the holes in the roof, instead of changing the whole roof each year and spending few months without roof while it's rebuilt...
But I get your point...
They need to add new features to keep customers interested, but my sense is that the compatibiity issues are... well, I don't claim to know what core code is, but I suspect that new widgets and Safari features aren't the problem.
I don't want Apple to stop optimizing and improving macOS, I just want them and developers to be in better sync!
Vik
Vi-k
They don't need to take a 2-3 year break – we can just stay with the OS version we prefer for as long as we want to. I'm on the newest Sonoma now, but that's because I'm on a new Mac. Before that I had long periods where I was one or several versions behind the latest updates.
Well sure, but never mind anything else, lots of people buy new machines all the time and have no choice - people like you!
The solution is for developers and Apple to be in better sync... which is easy for me to say, but when Kontakt 7 still isn't officially compatible with the latest macOS release four months later - a sampler that dozens of fourth-party developers use... I have no idea whose fault it is, and it may not be anyone's, but the situation is untenable.
You really should be able to keep your Mac current without worrying about your system falling apart when you do. I mean, how many people even know to turn off automatic updates? We're an elite group here.
JohnG
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I agree, it's a bit daft.Well sure, but never mind anything else, lots of people buy new machines all the time and have no choice - people like you!
The solution is for developers and Apple to be in better sync... which is easy for me to say, but when Kontakt 7 still isn't officially compatible with the latest macOS release four months later - a sampler that dozens of fourth-party developers use... I have no idea whose fault it is, and it may not be anyone's, but the situation is untenable.
You really should be able to keep your Mac current without worrying about your system falling apart when you do. I mean, how many people even know to turn off automatic updates? We're an elite group here.
Smaller Mac only software houses are often out of the gate day one with updates. I know that Kontakt/Spitfire etc is another kettle of fish with more complex pipelines, but surely the stretches shouldn't roll into months after Apple ships new software.
I get the argument that one can "freeze" a Mac in time and not update, but it's often not an option if (a) You use your Mac for other work outside music and (b) You have to splash out on a new Mac, as mentioned above.
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I don't think they can slow their macOS release cadence because too many other hardware products and forked operating systems are dependent on the annual core development and new tech that goes into it; They're all interdependent. My current strategy of waiting 6+ months before upgrading macOS has led to a relatively smooth experience for me with very few issues, at least over the past 2-3 years. It used to be much worse. I'm still on Ventura, but I might upgrade to Sonoma v14.3 earlier than usual because I haven't seen many complaints so far. Anyone encountering issues with Kontakt 7, OPUS, SINE or Spitfire (bespoke) these days?
Gregory Blakeborough
Larry Beethbrof
M1 Pro on Sonoma 14.3, zero issues with K7, SINE, and Spitfire plugin.
muddyblue
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M2 + Sonoma 14.3 (23D56) + Logic (10.8.1)+ N.I. Komplete Kontrol MK3 hardware (Firmware 1.5.5)+ Kontakt 7 (7.7.3) = Crash! It doesn't work! Komplete Kontrol also sometimes hangs.
That was one of the reasons I brought the S88MK3 back. It was so absolutely unusable, no information from N.I. /Apple when this will be fixed.
I have also a small preset problem with Arturia's augmented woodwinds, which can also be traced back to Sonoma together with support.
The rest from me works fine...
That was one of the reasons I brought the S88MK3 back. It was so absolutely unusable, no information from N.I. /Apple when this will be fixed.
I have also a small preset problem with Arturia's augmented woodwinds, which can also be traced back to Sonoma together with support.
The rest from me works fine...
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muddyblue
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