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Altiverb 8 is available

It's exciting to see the new version of Altiverb with Atmos support!
I like Atmos-supported reverbs because I also do post-production work in Atmos.
However, it would be great if there was more information on how the 9.1.6 IR was captured in Altiverb 8.
In the video, I see an ambisonic microphone that looks like a Reynolds mic, but there's insufficient information on whether it's a first-order or second-order ambisonics, and about the IR capture process. :)
 
DJiLAND said:
It's exciting to see the new version of Altiverb with Atmos support!
I like Atmos-supported reverbs because I also do post-production work in Atmos.
However, it would be great if there was more information on how the 9.1.6 IR was captured in Altiverb 8.
In the video, I see an ambisonic microphone that looks like a Reynolds mic, but there's insufficient information on whether it's a first-order or second-order ambisonics, and about the IR capture process. :)
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I'm pretty sure the microphones used at the end of the video (the stills shots with music) are DPA 4006's and a Sennheiser Ambeo microphone.

Best,
Anders

Edit: But don't take my word for it, drop them a message :)
Always had great communications when contacting Audioease.
 
Guy Rowland said:
The Exponential reverbs are perhaps a better rival, but none of them have that really visual way of working with the huge range Altiverb does. It's such a simple trick, I don't know why others don't do it - it's staggeringly effective.

Exponential redid their GUIs fairly recently, but it was a missed opportunity imo.
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Totally agree. Even in their latest video for Altiverb 8 you can tell how important the location pictures are, and I’m glad they take it seriously. My first impression of Altiverb was “Finally I can SEE what this preset is!” I really expected every other reverb to follow suit. But instead everything has become more clinical and futurist perhaps to ”look cool” but it doesn’t help the end user. In the heat of a mix I don’t know the difference between Amsterdam Hall or Black Hall preset, but hearing AND seeing helps me make a choice quickly, which is important among thousands of choices to make.

I think many ui designers are not mixers using it everyday. They should start by reviewing with famous mixers and what they love about what’s out there. I bet you’d end up with a completely different interface that was much more intuitive and enjoyable to use. Like Altiverb. I find more new patches because of those pictures, wish everyone would copy that.
 
X-Bassist said:
Are you running Apple Silicon Native? In Rosetta 2? The docs actually says it will load and run faster, but perhaps there's a glitch. No fear, Audio Ease are always on it.

I'm seeing about 5% off at Audio Deluxe as well (JRR shop still has version 7 upgrades but has not updated to 8 yet). $94.98 after current auto in cart discount. So no reason to join plugin discounts if you're not a member already.

Seems like the only reasons to upgrade are bigger surround formats in XL (which I need) and/or Apple Silicon Support (which I need). There are a few other minor improvements, but nothing that would wow a composer. You should still get the free IR updates in 7.

Seems Apple Silicon may get many to update and be a windfall for Audio Ease- if re-coding everything wasn't overly expensive. I'm sure it was time consuming. I'm glad they are still going strong. I was a little concerned since XL was still 5.1 max. Seems crazy now considering the large array they were recording with. But I suppose it was all to lead up to a release that can handle atmos. So glad they don't have to fake 9.1.6. I'm actually sticking Altiverb 7 through Halo Upmix 7.1 now just to fake it until this release. :)
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Nope I am running on Intel.
 
mducharme said:
Things like left and right channels being completely out of balance when they should match, etc. One example is the old, venerated Todd-AO scoring stage that used to exist in LA. It seems the IRs weren't all recorded as carefully as each other.
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@mducharme
The channels are not out of balance. The room just reflects differently depending on the frequency.
What you see with Todd-AO is also true for their Teldex preset. And, just as a comparison, if I sweep through a Logic Space Designer preset (based on an IR), the energy and amplitude also differ depending on the frequency. But once you put white noise into those IRs you'll see that the energy is distributed equally between the channels. Well, at least equally enough for me. Do you have Altiverb? Did you try it yourself?

The Todd-AO samples were made by some people working for the Stage back then. The samples date back to 2005. They've used the original mics used by the facility and Simon Rhodes. Later, they offered Audio Ease the samples when Todd-AO closed down. Apparently, it was a token of gratitude, and even if there is something wrong with the samples, it's not necessarily the fault of Audio Ease' recording process.
 
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On only having a single license, from Audio Ease support:

We thought about this long and hard and are unlikely to change.

There is no way for us to distinguish between the home-laptop / studio-machine situation on the one hand, and the multi-room facility on the other. So we stick with one license. We believe that's fair, although we know it's not usual. We don't feel usual is necessarily fair though. Everybody in the large facilities has bought one license per rig. It would not be fair to change that now that we took their money. Currently cloud activation can only be provided by manufacturers that offer subscriptions. We don't like that. You pay once, and get suport upgrades and IRs for free until the next paid upgrade (12 years in Altiverb's case). That's our model.

For your situation we provide an ilok that you can move around. If that is a problem we allow you to transfer your license to a computer and back into your account. Also we allow you to sell a license and we'll help you to transfer ownership.
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Makes sense to a point, and I appreciated the reply. I did suggest they could offer a single discounted second license per customer account, but that was given (polite) short shrift.
 
BaiCaiX said:
I think what he means is that the Company side needs to subscribe some service to use iLok Cloud.
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Not correct, publishing iLok protected software requires a contract with Pace regardless of the registration option (usb, cloud, machine) that is used for the protected software.

Anyway, I do not want to further derail this topic, I just noticed this strange/incorrect reply to Guy's question.
 
Both Audio Ease’s pricing and iLok policies seem more characteristic of business-to-business (B2B) than business-to-consumer (B2C). That makes sense for a company that primarily sells to post houses.

Nonetheless, I think we’re an important secondary market to Audio Ease. They have a wide variety of IRs that are mostly of interest in music production. For me, their software is indispensable and their business model is satisfactory. YMMV.

Best,

Geoff
 
babylonwaves said:
Do you have Altiverb? Did you try it yourself?
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I do have Altiverb but I honestly haven't used it in over a decade. Last I used it, I was using Todd-AO and didn't notice any specific problems with the balance, but I was so inexperienced, I might not have recognized what problems were there. I do remember fighting to get decent results, everything sounded awful, particularly when using the positioner, and someone helping me by assisting configuring an EQ to correct for the room resonances in Todd-AO, but I really couldn't have done that myself and couldn't tell what that person was hearing. Then I replaced Altiverb with Lexicon PCM and immediately got much better results, and decided that all convolution reverb must just be terrible. It was only about a year ago that I got MIR 3D Pro, my first convolution reverb since Altiverb, and then Berlin Studio after that, and both are great. After those experiences, I actually tried to load up Altiverb again as it was probably just my early mixing skills that gave me issues with it, but was disappointed that it wasn't VST3 yet and that the UI was so tiny on my HiDPI display, so I decided to wait for this upgrade. But now I'll have to wait again, as no Windows support yet.
 
I’m a long time Altiverb user; started with version 6. It has always served me very well, especially for symphonic productions.

The upgrade price will always give rise to mixed opinions. For me it’s a case of how much the upgrade has to offer: if it is years of work bringing about fantastic new features and improvements, ok I might be willing to pay a reasonable amount. In the case of this Altiverb upgrade, for the standard version anyway, I can’t see anything noteworthy on offer beyond one or two performance enhancements, so I’ll stick to 7 for now.

For those in this thread applauding the generosity of the Spectrasonics guys, I am still on Omnisphere 1 after many years because of their $249 upgrade price to Omnisphere 2. Not saying $249 is good or bad, right or wrong; just saying I couldn’t bring myself to reach for my wallet, especially after the initial expense of the original product.
 
Anders Wall said:
For those in need of a cloud solution I’d recommend looking into a usb-over-network solution.
Like the free

Home | VirtualHere

www.virtualhere.com www.virtualhere.com
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Looks like it is $49, but still a really cool piece of software! I could see using this when working remotely at other studios... user could log in and access iLok-protected software without having to risk losing the iLok dongle.

Thanks for sharing the idea!
 
I just got a message "no windows support" advising me to wait for the upgrade if I'm on Windows. I'm not quite sure what that means. Does it mean that there is no Windows installer -- in which case the message should simply be that it's not currently possible to upgrade? Or what? And is there any indication when the Windows version will be available?
 
dko22 said:
I just got a message "no windows support" advising me to wait for the upgrade if I'm on Windows. I'm not quite sure what that means. Does it mean that there is no Windows installer -- in which case the message should simply be that it's not currently possible to upgrade? Or what? And is there any indication when the Windows version will be available?
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If you navigate to the specifications page on the Audio Ease website, it does state that the Windows version of Altiverb 8 is TBD, but doesn’t specify when. So for now, the upgrade itself is indeed Mac only.
 
thanks -- I managed to find more info so it does look like I'll just need to wait. Looking forward to VST3 and no dongle.
 
HCMarkus said:
Looks like it is $49, but still a really cool piece of software! I could see using this when working remotely at other studios... user could log in and access iLok-protected software without having to risk losing the iLok dongle.

Thanks for sharing the idea!
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Yes sorry.
You can connect to one device (ilok or other) for free.
If you need multiple then it’s $49.

/Anders
 
Anders Wall said:
For those in need of a cloud solution I’d recommend looking into a usb-over-network solution.
Like the free

Home | VirtualHere

www.virtualhere.com www.virtualhere.com

This is the one we use

USB Dongle Server

www.seh-technology.com www.seh-technology.com

I’ve got full access to my ilok and other usb-keys from anywhere.

It does however not allow us to use the license on multiple computers at the same time.

Best,
/Anders
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Hi Anders, hope you're well!

This probably needs its own thread, but the dream scenario is to keep an iLok connected to the main machine and - regardless of whether or not that rig is switched on - it can be accessed via the internet by a laptop. Can Virtual Here do this? I'm guessing not, but thought I'd ask!
 
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