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LOGIC: Dragging Apple Loops with plugins and midi // VS // Opening presets from Channel Strip Settings

PeterBaden

PeterBaden

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Hi. I make music for screen and theatre etc, and often I have a lot of active tracks for even short queues and compositions. My idea is that using apple loops to make a library of all the usual suspects I often use, would be of great help. Normally I use channel strip settings, and open a guitarpreset with kontakt-sampler, a eq, a rewerb and compression, all by selecting a channel strip I saved earlier. But by doing this with Apple Loops, I could also get the midi corresponding to that track. That can save a lot of time, but of course be more limiting for the musical prosess. But having my strings WITH the modulation and expression allready there, saves a lot of time. My question is: 1. Does anybody else work like this making you're own library from individual instruments in apple loops? 2. Where does Appel loops analytics-files go? There must be some , I guess? 3. A good way to import all those apple lopps WITH the plugins setting to another drive or computer?
Thanks for the help! Peter Baden oslo, Norway
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PeterBaden said:
1. Does anybody else work like this making you're own library from individual instruments in apple loops?
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I can think of two ways to save a patch + MIDI: using Apple loops as you say, or by keeping a "library project" of tracks that you can import with "File", "Import", "Logic Projects."

Apple loops is probably a bit more convenient, especially if you use only one at a time, but personally I prefer the library project method: I can open the library project and view/update the patches, MIDI and automation data in bulk, for example, and the extra clicks don't matter too much since I usually bring in several library tracks at once.

PeterBaden said:
2. Where does Appel loops analytics-files go? There must be some , I guess? 3. A good way to import all those apple lopps WITH the plugins setting to another drive or computer?
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User loops are stored as .AIF files at ~/Library/Audio/Apple Loops/User Loops/SingleFiles (though there have been other formats in the past: here's the support article in case it changes in the future.) They look like audio files, but - by magic - they also contain the plugin settings and MIDI.
OK, it isn't magic. Those AIF files look like audio files in Finder because they are audio files, and if you play them you'll hear the loop's preview audio. The AIFF format just happens to allow other "chunks" of data to be packaged in the same file, and Logic uses this to store the original MIDI and plugin settings. If you drag the loop onto an audio region, then you'll get an audio loop, but if you drag it onto an instrument track (or the empty space below the tracks), then Logic will use these stored settings/MIDI to re-create the original software instrument track.

To move your loops to a new machine, you can just copy them to the same location on the new machine, and then tell Logic to "Reindex All Loops" from the drop-down menu at the top of the loop browser so it finds them and adds them to the browser list.
 
Thaks for the reply!

Here is another reply from another forum. Guess that helps too:)

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Does anybody else work like this making you're own library from individual instruments in apple loops?

Me, I do! Not many people know this but Logic's Apple Loop file format is basically the equivalent of Ableton's ALC file: the MIDI/audio region + all channel strip settings + plugin settings + automation data are all saved in a single file/"loop".

Here's a secret pro tip: if you have a Patch with multiple software instrument tracks in it and you create a region on the main track (top most) of that Patch, drag that region into the Loop Browser to convert it to an Apple Loop, and then drag that loop back into the Tracks area it will also recall all of the software instrument tracks that make up that Patch! Ableton's ALC file works the same way as well. I love dragging in entire string section Patches and working this way :)

A good way to import all those apple lopps WITH the plugins setting to another drive or computer?

Any Apple Loop you create yourself is stored in ~/library/audio/apple loops/user loops/single files so just make a copy of all the loops in that folder and copy them over to the new location. All settings including plugin settings are embedded directly into the Apple Loop so no worries there. Just copy your User Loops over and you're good to go.

If you didn't already know, you can create your own folders in the Loop Browser. Go to ~/library/audio/apple loops/user loops and you can create as many folders as you like. Your custom folders will show up in the Loop Browser in the "Sound Packs" menu beneath all of the Factory loops. If you don't organize your custom loops they'll remain in the User Loops/Single Files folder that I mentioned before.
 
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