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Pier

Pier

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I'm considering getting into Cubase but would like to hear all the 1 star reviews from people that moved onto other DAWs. :)

I'm currently using Bitwig. It's amazing in so many aspects (sound design, devices, modulators, the grid, etc) except for actually writing music.

Edit from future Pier:

I'm already using Cubase 12!
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So, I've started with FlStudio but when I was still studying music I was forced to learn Cubase. Now I'm using FlStudio again.

The reason: it's quite simple actually, most of my compositions are based on what's happening in the piano roll, and the one in Fl feels a lot smoother (but maybe I'm just accustomed to it?)
Another thing: my eyes easily get stressed out and in general Fl has a darker appearence, which is pleasing to watch.

For now that's all, if other aspects come to mind I'll list them.
 
I used it for a bit but it was buggy on my MP 3,1 and even on the 6,1. the workflow was good but I could never get into the score editor the way I can with Studio One (or even Logic, or DP).

I still have it but seldom boot it up.
 
S1 made me realise how old Cubase is - the core is very dated so even basic functions can be really ridiculously convoluted to achieve. I think a good example would be setting up hardware controllers (check out Cubase vs S1 - the difference is baffling).

When I started using Studio One maybe just over a year ago, the expression maps were very basic and probably one of the worst of any DAW. Fast forward now and they have become one of the best - if not best - and are such a breeze to set up. Cubase updates at a snails pace and when they do, because the core is so dated, it's usually just adding to the bloated-ness making things more convoluted.

I've only been using S1 for just over a year and I feel like I have a better handle on how it works more than I ever did with Cubase, and I was using Cubase from v.6 to v.10.5.

Of course there's many reasons why I love S1, but that's more about why S1 is good rather than why I dislike Cubase.

Honestly, there's a lot more to it but I am suppose to be working right now :(
 
easyrider said:
I would download the trial and try it yourself…
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I could, but it would be a superficial impression.

Someone that used Cubase in depth and left will have a much better perspective that I could by demoing it.

easyrider said:
What people like you might hate…what people hate you might like…
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Sure, so what? I wanna hear others' opinions.
 
SimonCharlesHanna said:
S1 made me realise how old Cubase is - the core is very dated so even basic functions can be really ridiculously convoluted to achieve. I think a good example would be setting up hardware controllers (check out Cubase vs S1 - the difference is baffling).

When I started using Studio One maybe just over a year ago, the expression maps were very basic and probably one of the worst of any DAW. Fast forward now and they have become one of the best - if not best - and are such a breeze to set up. Cubase updates at a snails pace and when they do, because the core is so dated, it's usually just adding to the bloated-ness.

I've only been using S1 for just over a year and I feel like I have a better handle on how it works more than I ever did with Cubase, and I was using Cubase from v.6 to v.10.5.

Honestly, there's a lot more to it but I am suppose to be working right now :(
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This is very interesting because I'm also considering Studio One.

I already have all the virtual instruments and plugins I need. I'm really looking at improving my midi and audio workflow.
 
Pier said:
I could, but it would be a superficial impression.

Someone that used Cubase in depth and left will have a much better perspective that I could by demoing it.
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But people have left others DAWS for Cubase….

Pier said:
Sure, so what? I wanna hear others' opinions.
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You want negatives it’s seems ….why people have left….there are many who have moved to Cubase from other DAWS…..don’t you want their opinions too?
 
easyrider said:
You want negatives it’s seems ….why people have left….there are many who have moved to Cubase from other DAWS…..don’t you want their opinions too?
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That could be an interesting thread too!

But to be honest, good things won't make me regret getting into Cubase :)
 
Try out Cubase LE Elements.. its the same thing GUI and workflow wise, just stripped down. I use it and like it, but I can see why some people have issues. It's got lots of windows that detach and lots of preferences one can tweak, which I think, some people don't bother with reading up on.

for actually writing music
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^^ I think Cubase has the best MIDI editing features.
 
Pier said:
This is very interesting because I'm also considering Studio One.

I already have all the virtual instruments and plugins I need. I'm really looking at improving my midi and audio workflow.
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For me, S1 is just a friendlier, more customizable version of Cubase with a much more aesthetically pleasing notation editor. I love the macros, the ability to save custom presets for each library, the crispness of navigation, the mastering suite built in.... I even scored that Stargirl thing on Studio One. Yeah, it doesn't have the video on a track like Cubase or Logic but I found I was able to match my hitpoints with no concerns... I know it's small potatoes compared to those who are scoring full features mind you...
 
darkogav said:
Try out Cubase LE Elements.. its the same thing GUI and workflow wise, just stripped down.
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From the comparison tables it seems Cubase LE is super limited. Only 8 VST instrument tracks, for example which is ridiculously low.

Cubase Elements has 24 VST tracks which I can live with for the time being (not writing anything serious). It doesn't even require the USB dongle... and then I could upgrade once Steinberg releases v12 with the rumored no-dongle license.
 
dcoscina said:
For me, S1 is just a friendlier, more customizable version of Cubase with a much more aesthetically pleasing notation editor. I love the macros, the ability to save custom presets for each library, the crispness of navigation, the mastering suite built in.... I even scored that Stargirl thing on Studio One. Yeah, it doesn't have the video on a track like Cubase or Logic but I found I was able to match my hitpoints with no concerns... I know it's small potatoes compared to those who are scoring full features mind you...
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Dragging the VST instrument tab to the files section to create and instant preset is a game changer….saves so much time…👍

Studio One remote on a tablet is amazing for macros….Press one button….create a instrument track-insert Kontakt -open Kontakt instrument-insert console 1
 
I have used Cubase since the Atari days. I never thought there was much wrong with it, and I enjoyed the yearly updates. However, its ever growing power became too intimidating for me, too Zimmerish maybe. I am just a simple singer/songwriter and I started to feel lost in the sheer possibillities Cubase offers you. Even for a long time user as I am, using the program became increasingly less intuïtive for me. One day, after some frustrating hours in Cubase, I tried out Studio One 5, and fell in love, instantly. It feels smaller than Cubase, which it probably is not (it even contains a mastering section), but you get that feeling because everything is just so easy to do: from making macro's to drag and dropping fx. Easy workflow inspires me. I became a Sphere member, bought a Faderport 8 and havent't looked at Cubase since. Cubase is brilliant in many ways, but to me, Studio One is just more brilliant.
Oh, and let's not forget the wonderful team of Studio One tutorial makers. Greg and Joe are incredible: Happy, very focused and clear, I have learned so much from them. Real teachers. Of course, there are a lot of Cubase tutorials too, but to me they seem.scattered over Youtube, producers/musicians that use Cubase and give their personal tips and tricks, but I feel no connection, there is no Cubase team, such as there is for Studio One. Studio One is one of those Software environments that make me happy.
 
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Musicloops - save your instruments in a database with audio clip to remind you what it sounds like. Drag it in and the patch is loaded as it was saved (edits n all so you could have different versions of the same patch even FX on the channel)

Scratch Pad - save ideas that are in their own little space off of your workspace. Once I've got my sketch I move it to a scratch pad and start my final version from bar 1. So rather than tracks taking up 40 - 50 mins on the transport incl. sketches ideas etc, they are just the length of the final track. Honestly - cant go back to not having a scratch pad anymore.

Btw, scratch pad contains its own transport space so you can have different tempo or tempo changes that dont affect your main workspace
 
Pier said:
From the comparison tables it seems Cubase LE is super limited. Only 8 VST instrument tracks, for example which is ridiculously low.

Cubase Elements has 24 VST tracks which I can live with for the time being (not writing anything serious). It doesn't even require the USB dongle... and then I could upgrade once Steinberg releases v12 with the rumored no-dongle license.
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Yes. I agree. It's limited and cheaper-- sometimes free. But I think it does give one a really good idea what it's like to use it. But if you decide to use it, if you are doing large projects, you will need Pro for sure. There are things in it that you can't work without IMO.
 
I hate their licensing. I don't want to plug in some hardware just to use it on another machine. I bought it when a crossgrade offer was $170. I collect DAWs like people collect VIs. I barely touch it. That's part of the problem with too many DAWs. I prefer dance genres which favor FL and Live for me. I don't like the rounded corners in Cubase. If you are one needing a staff view once in a while you can go wrong with Cubase. Studio One has better licensing though.
 
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