SSD Storage
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Many VI-Control members use Samsung SSDs, which are reportedly quite reliable
I use SanDisk SSDs and have never encountered any issues whatsoever
(I am unclear about the efficacy of using cloud storage, but theoretically the storage would be infinite)
I use SanDisk SSDs and have never encountered any issues whatsoever
(I am unclear about the efficacy of using cloud storage, but theoretically the storage would be infinite)
octave music
Member
I'm a Mac Studio M2 Ultra user. My total VI library footprint is around 9TB right now. I recently upgraded my storage setup from having 3 OWC Thunderbay Mini 4's [12 SSD's in total with libraries spread across all of them] connected via TB3, and have now consolidated to having all of those same libraries on three OWC Express 1m2 each with a 4TB WD SN850X NVME installed in them. Those connect using the USB4 protocol and I have each of the three of them connected to its own USB4/TB4 port on my mac. I have been so satisfied with them. They are fantastic! OWC express enclosure [empty] is $119 and the 4TB WD sn850X price fluctuates from $270-$325. So worst case, you're looking at $444 for a single 4TB external bus powered FANLESS silent enclosure that consistently gets read and write speeds of 3100MB/s.
jbuhler
Senior Member
I’ve never had an SSD fail. (Knock on silicon,)
sostenuto
AKA _ doubtingtom37
Older PC MthrBds ... so no internal NVMe. Does external NVMe now truly provide 'mid-range' library peformance speeds ... via MB USB connection ?
jbuhler
Senior Member
I don’t know. I imagine NVMe in the right enclosure will give you speeds up to what the drive and the bus can deliver. Whether that will be faster than your internal will depend on your internal drive and the ports on the motherboard I would think. USB3 caps put fairly low so I doubt connecting an NVMe via USB3 will make much difference.
sostenuto
AKA _ doubtingtom37
...... Thanks Jim ! Putting off the inevitable full desktop PC replacement as long as possible.
Will surely be in $6k - $9k range.
{ UGreen 40Gbps M.2 NVMe Enclosure with Coling Fan + Crucial 4TB PCIe Gen 4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD } ~ $400. and will buy some time. Better than more internal SATA SSD(s) _ looking ahead.
Regards,
Thom B
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jbuhler
Senior Member
Given that prices of NVMes are currently roughly comparable to SATA SSDs it definitely makes sense to invest in NVMes. The enclosures for NVMes tend to run higher I think but that might be because I was only looking at TB3/TB4/USB4 enclosures.
Aymara
Member
The prices for Thunderbolt enclosures have never been lower than today.
Wheres my gf?
ReelToLogic
Still have my reel-to-reel
I second the vote for Samsung SSDs.
And as quite a coincidence, just yesterday I did a YouTube search for demos of Keyscape and ended up watching your video. Your piano playing is absolutely beautiful!
And as quite a coincidence, just yesterday I did a YouTube search for demos of Keyscape and ended up watching your video. Your piano playing is absolutely beautiful!
nitrateaudio
Active Member
SSD's fail all the time. Trust me.
FWIW.. I use QNAP NAS. Works well.
FWIW.. I use QNAP NAS. Works well.
jbuhler
Senior Member
I never said they didn’t. I said I’d never had one fail. Knock on silicon. And I do regularly have spinning drives fail, about one per year.
jbuhler
Senior Member
As far as I can see TB enclosures are still quite a lot higher in price than USB3 enclosures. The fact that they are cheaper than they used to be doesn't change that fact.
Aymara
Member
See too ... so far I only had one HDD fail ... in several decades. Maybe I was just lucky.
But it's also worth mentioning, that some SSD designs last longer than others.
Fact is, backups are not only for cowards
jbuhler
Senior Member
You wouldn’t catch me without a backup. Or rather several. Generally I have an SSD copy, a spinning drive copy and a cloud copy, at least for documents. For sample libraries I generally let the developer serve as the cloud backup.See too ... so far I only had one HDD fail ... in several decades. Maybe I was just lucky.
But it's also worth mentioning, that some SSD designs last longer than others.
Fact is, backups are not only for cowards
Aymara
Member
Sure, as it always was, but they are affordable now and they support Trim, which USB doesn't. For pure library SSDs this isn't important, but for SSDs with many write and delete cycles it's very important, e.g. audio recordings with many takes. Otherwise they will become extremely slow over time.
Technostica
I AM
USB supports Trim but not all combinations of USB controller, disk format and operating systems do.
The main thing seems to be the enclosure, although there have been reports of issues with Apple Silicon and some models of SSDs.
Also, my issues with some USB devices (M1 Mac Studio Max) not mounting when I'd wake or restart the computer went away a couple of macOS Ventura updates ago.
But that hasn't ever happened with my Acasis TB405 enclosure with a 4TB Crucial P3+.
Crucial, Western Digital, SanDisk, Kingston, Corsair, PNY.. I'm probably forgetting others I've had that have never failed. The only one to avoid is Seagate, because the company made me mad years ago.
Also, my issues with some USB devices (M1 Mac Studio Max) not mounting when I'd wake or restart the computer went away a couple of macOS Ventura updates ago.
But that hasn't ever happened with my Acasis TB405 enclosure with a 4TB Crucial P3+.
I second the vote for every other brand as well, never having felt the need to pay a premium for Samsung.
Crucial, Western Digital, SanDisk, Kingston, Corsair, PNY.. I'm probably forgetting others I've had that have never failed. The only one to avoid is Seagate, because the company made me mad years ago.
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