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CeDur

CeDur

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I'm a big fan of PV Production Grand and just recieved an email about 300 Grand Compact release. Most of demo examples sound quite dry and bright, but this one sounds really nice



What are your thoughts?
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CeDur said:
I'm a big fan of PV Production Grand and just recieved an email about 300 Grand Compact release. Most of demo examples sound quite dry and bright, but this one sounds really nice



What are your thoughts?
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I’m definitely not a sampled piano aficionado or the ultimate authority on the different nuances and playability of various pianos this really sounds nice to me!
I love Production Voice’s piano releases that I already have like the Halfling and the Death Piano so this really has piqued my interest!
I wish it was a Kontakt based library because I’m more comfortable with the Kontakt environment but this does sound beautiful.

@CGR and other more qualified piano oriented maniacs I am curious what you all think about this new CFX piano that’s on the horizon ?
 
kgdrum said:
I’m definitely not a sampled piano aficionado or the ultimate authority on the different nuances and playability of various pianos this really sounds nice to me!
I love Production Voice’s piano releases that I already have like the Halfling and the Death Piano so this really has piqued my interest!
I wish it was a Kontakt based library because I’m more comfortable with the Kontakt environment but this does sound beautiful.

@CGR and other more qualified piano oriented maniacs I am curious what you all think about this new CFX piano that’s on the horizon ?
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It certainly has my interest. The developer Jason mentioned there will be a Kontakt based version released with more velocity layers and 9 mic sets, so will wait until then to assess. The Compact version does sound very good - a nice 'tighter' sounding alternative to the VSL and Garritan CFX pianos, and with more natural bite and presence than NI's Noire.
 
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@CGR
Woah thanks for this great information! Knowing this I think I will also wait for the Kontakt based release.
Jason imo is an enormously talented developer and I really appreciate that the Production Voice piano libraries besides being great sampled pianos are unique & anything but generic.
I love that the PV pianos are quite capable of going into sonic territory’s beyond a typical standard piano library.

@CGR Thanks for facilitating another piano related GAS attack!

The Halfling which I absolutely love was another piano library I purchased based on your recommendation.
The official VI-C piano library GAS-meister strikes again!

😘 🎹
 
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I hope the Kontakt version supports Kontakt Player and NKS. This is a trend, even if the price is a bit more expensive.
 
Here's a little something with the Production Voices 300 Grand Compact.

This piano defaults with a slighty hard and harsh sound, I find, but it's manageable. (Needs some attenuation around 600-700kHz as well as around 4000 kHz, to avoid ear fatigue.) Otherwise, very decent library with excellent definition and very convincing piano power, making for an instrument that should work well in most anything that requires a crispy, snappy piano part.

At the moment only $29 by the way. Insane price.

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I would trade my full Garritan CFX for this without hesitation if it was only possible.
 
I'm nowhere near CGR's level of playing, but I'm having a lot of fun using 300 Grand. Compared to Production Grand 2, it has much more body, stronger bass but still you get some sparkle on the top. Also much prefer it to Garritan CFX, which seems to be 'too perfect' for me.

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CGR said:
Looking forward to the multi-mic, 36 velocity layer Kontakt version being released.
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I'm not sure whether it will be 36 layers. From what I've read on PV page, 12 layers for Compact have been chosen from 'up to 36 layers recorded', but it was the same case for Production Grand and still in the final version 'only' 12 layers where left. Concert Grand has more. We won't know until it's released.

Should I wait or get VSL CFX? Ehhh.
 
CeDur said:
. . . I'm not sure whether it will be 36 layers. From what I've read on PV page, 12 layers for Compact have been chosen from 'up to 36 layers recorded', but it was the same case for Production Grand and still in the final version 'only' 12 layers where left. Concert Grand has more. We won't know until it's released.
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From the email I received:

Upgradable: 300 Grand Compact is upgradable to the soon to be released 300 Grand for Kontakt that features 9 microphone perspectives and up to 36 velocities per note. The full purchase price of 300 Grand Compact will be credited to anyone who updates within the first 30 days of launch.
 
Maybe I've spent too much time with marketing team in my company, but 'up to 36' means, well, 'up to' :D

Still, the sheer number of layers does not say much about the library. What I've heard in Compact say a lot and I'm happy what I hear.
 
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tcb said:
I find a small bug.The G1 and F#1,velocity around 90,pedal down samples is a little later than other samples(about 40ms) :)When hit these notes in certain velocity,it will cause some out of beat.Especially playing Octaves.I am new to sfz sampler,but I will try to fix it by myself.. View attachment CFX BUG.mp4
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I fixed this and all other reported issues with the latest release, v1.1.3, which is available with the Pulse Downloader :)
 
CeDur said:
I would trade my full Garritan CFX for this without hesitation if it was only possible.
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I'm changing my mind. I would still trade Garritan CFX for 300 Grand (full Kontakt version when it's released), but with hesitation :)

I keep deleting and re-installing Garritan. It's lazy holiday day today, so there was another iteration. I compared them side by side, tried to match velocities etc. Added a little reverb to 300 Grand to compensate lack of 'room' mic in Compact. By default, 300 Grand is brighter and maybe a bit cleaner. I feel the need to add a bit of saturation for more body. Garritan is darker with lower velocities, definitely, and still can 'sparkle' with high notes. I've recorded a few seconds from my today tests:

 
'Seasoned' ears usually miss many / most subtleties _ so always appreciate saturation, reverb, other tweaks when posted with specific sources / settings.
Comfortable that end-results translate to improved, perceived quality. 👏🏻
 
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