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HOOPUS v Synchron Prime - Pros and cons

rAC

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I’m not in any hurry to decide between them as I’ve yet to spend any time with the free VSL Big Bang Orchestra Library let alone even downloading the 30 day trial of Synchron Prime. Time on the Big Bang Orchestra should give me a good idea as to whether I like/can use the Synchron Player and if that’s satisfactory then obviously I’ll move onto the Prime trial for final evaluation.
I haven’t spent a lot of time yet with HOOPUS but OPUS seems reasonably well put together for useability and I like the way they have gone to the trouble of putting together articulation sets for export into Logic Pro.
But I am very interested in what people think are the pro’s and con’s of these two orchestral libraries Particularly the compare/contrast between them.
Also whether they are truely comparable or have I picked the ‘wrong’ VSL package to ask about?
 
@halfwalk I have actually gone for a year on ComposerCloud+ - so I’m certainly not in a hurry. I’m also thoroughly confused by the VSL various offerings in terms of what they give you ie should I be thinking to compare HOOPUS with prime or as you say the full Synchron or the synchronised package or smart or the VI cube or …? VSL seem to have so many packages and no tabulation comparing what exactly is in them.
 
I think they are quite different. HOOPUS is great, and is a fully fledged orchestral library, but is now a bit older (but still worth the money). Synchron Prime is a lite version of the Synchron series, which is much newer and gives you an upgrade path to the much-more-expensive, full libraries.

I would definitely agree that the sound of Opus is largely better, particularly for the cinematic sound, but the features, programming, player, etc of the Synchron series are all top notch, superior to Opus in general.
 
I have HOOPUS and thinking about getting Synchron Prime. I think the two would actually work well together. I personally like the mix plus close mic that Synchron gives. I think it sounds just fine and when you start adding your own reverb and stuff on it, it will blend quite well.

I do have Syncrhon STrings Pro and will also probably get Duality strings. But, so the main thing I would want in Prime are the brass and woodwinds and that fine harp.
 
I have HOOPUS and thinking about getting Synchron Prime. I think the two would actually work well together.
Me too - the only reason that I haven't is because Duality Strings doesn't give a crossgrade deal so it would be full price for me. I might wait until I pick up another library that I want to get anyway (like Synchron Percussion I) which would give me a discount on Synchron Prime.
 
Don't forget: You can get a free 30 days demo license of the Prime Edition on the product page and check it out for yourself :)

 
@Ben So as I said I get confused about the VSL offerings: is Synchron prime the obvious comparator to EWs OPUS? Or is it the Symphonic Cube or something else? It’s suggested above that an upgrade path exists to your full libraries but I haven’t seen anything on your website about it.
And I’m totally clueless as to where and how the Big Bang Orchestra and the Epic Orchestra fit in (if at all).
 
I would add, that time difference mentioned above is not applicable in this case. HOOPUS and Synchron are same generation, same tech.

I like both in different use cases.
 
I bought Prime but realized that I should have gone with the 30 days demo, because I found the sound lame compared to the Synchron Strings and Synchron Woodwinds that I already owned. So I saved up for some time and bought the Synchron Brass and wow, the sound is way better, especially during dynamic fading (cc1, cc11).

But I have to say, that using DivisiMate with Prime is a really nice sketching setup. Next Midi and VSL have collaborated to create templates that work just as well as the Hoopus Orchestrator. For some people, I think that workflow may be more important than a full-fidelity sound.
 
@Ben So as I said I get confused about the VSL offerings: is Synchron prime the obvious comparator to EWs OPUS? Or is it the Symphonic Cube or something else? It’s suggested above that an upgrade path exists to your full libraries but I haven’t seen anything on your website about it.
And I’m totally clueless as to where and how the Big Bang Orchestra and the Epic Orchestra fit in (if at all).
Synchron Prime Edition is a stripped down version of libraries from the Synchron Package, so it is not directly comparable to OPUS (Diamond?).
Synchron Prime comes with one RoomMix and Close or Mid mic per instrument, reduced articulations (for example no non-vibrato options), and for harp, percussion and brass with reduced velocity layers.
Prime Edition is a light-weight library requiring less SSD and RAM space compared to the Synchron Libraries. You get an upgrade discount to many of the Synchron Libraries (Strings Pro, Brass, Woodwinds, Percussion I).
It's an all-in-one library to provide a solid foundation or for light-weight mobile use. Also great for musicians who want to upgrade their notation software sound.

Synchron Series comes in two variations: Standard and Full. The only difference between these is the mic count: Standard includes all mics that are essential for a good mix in stereo, while Full also adds mics that are important for surround and immersive formats, as well as adding more room/space to your stereo mixes.
You can buy the libraries on their own or as entire bundle (which will give you an additional discount).

Big Bang Orchestra conatins mainly Ensemble instruments with all mic positions included, but fewer articulations compared to most Synchron libraries. It's provides a big out-of-the-box sound, especially useful for media composers.
Many parts of the BBO have made it into Synchron Libraries, so there are often upgrade discounts available as well.

Epic Orchestra 2.0: This is a library you get when buying Vienna Ensemble Pro. It contains a very small collection of VI and Synchron Libraries instruments with a very limited articulation set.

VI Series / Symphonic Cube: These are dry-recorded libraries that delivered mostly in stereo. There are no mic options, you have to take care of the spacialisation, reverb and mix yourself. This said, they are very detailed with as many articulations as a library possibly can have.
SYNCHRON-ized Series: The successor of the VI Libraries, but with included spatialization and reverb (via IR, can be disabled). These libraries run in our new Synchron Player instead of the VI Player.


Tl;dr: If you are...

...looking for a good, price and resource friendly all-in-one with the possibility of upgrading at any point:
Synchron Prime Edition

...a media composer and need big sounds for a good price/value ratio without too many details:
Big Bang Orchestra

...want full control and the best sound and detail Synchron Stage has to offer:
Synchron Series

...want as many articulations and instruments as possible, but have need for multi-mic libraries:
SYNCHRON-ized Series

Personally, I do not recommend getting into the VI Series unless you already know how to work with dry libraries. The SYNCHRON-ized Series is way easier to use and comes with out-of-the-box usable sound and mixer settings and is therefore the better choice for most users.
A stripped down version of the SYNCHRON-ized Series is also available: SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions

Of course, you can mix and match these libraries as you like. Synchron (Prime), SYNCHRON-ized and Big Bang Orchestra libraries are designed to work together out-of-the-box with the sound signature of Synchron Stage Vienna.
 
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