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Using MIR Pro 3D in Cubase

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Sasha Kindel

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I just installed MIR Pro 3D and one of the room packs, and am trying to figure out how to start using it in an existing Cubase project. I'm looking at this page of the manual: https://www.vsl.info/en/manuals/mir-pro-3d/cubase-nuendo

This is equivalent to the channel strip image shown there, right?
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And the box with "L13" in it is what it means by "panner display at the top"? When I right click on that, I get this:
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I assume when the manual says "select 'Vienna MIR Pro'" it means that "Vienna MIR Pro" should appear in that menu in the section with "Stereo Combined Panner" and "Stereo Balance Panner," and the fact that it doesn't means the instructions presuppose the reader has done something else first that I haven't done.

I'm not sure what it means when it says "MIR Pro 3D’s active Venue." As far as I can tell, Cubase doesn't yet know that MIR Pro 3D exists, so I haven't had a chance to select a venue in the context of this project. I tried opening Vienna MIR Pro 3D from my Windows start menu and selecting a venue there in case the DAW is expected to communicate with a standalone instance, but apparently not.

It also occurred to me that the wording of the part about channel strips could be taken to apply only to virtual instruments from Vienna Instruments, not ones from third parties, but I have a SYNCHRON-ized harp in the project, and "Vienna MIR Pro" wasn't a panner option for that channel either.

What am I missing?
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The problem here is you are in stereo. AFAIK, MIR 3D Pro can only be used as a panner in Cubase if you have a surround project. In a stereo setup like this, you have to use it as an insert. Or you can go through a tutorial to enable your Cubase project for Atmos, and then MIR 3D Pro should appear in the list of surround panners.
 
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Okay, I have instruments in MIR and working now. A couple followup questions:

One, do the volume and pan settings here apply to the signal before it gets to MIR, or does MIR override these entirely?
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Two, I think I'm going to want to work without MIR most of the time, and only enable it when I do balance work and when I render things to audio, so I can hear the details better and to conserve processing power. I've been getting instruments into MIR by adding it to this Inserts list under Channel Settings one track at a time, but is there a way to turn MIR on and off for all instruments at once?
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Sasha Kindel said:
Okay, I have instruments in MIR and working now. A couple followup questions:

One, do the volume and pan settings here apply to the signal before it gets to MIR, or does MIR override these entirely?
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If you add MIR as a pre-fader insert, the volume setting (fader) should apply after it goes to MIR. If you add MIR as a post-fader insert, the volume setting (fader) should apply before it goes to MIR. Panning is always the last step in the signal chain, so the panner will always affect the signal already processed by MIR. Therefore, you'll want to make sure you leave Cubase center panned if you don't want it to mess up MIR's positioning. That's one reason to work in surround - then you can use the MIR panner and you don't have to worry about accidentally changing MIR's panning with the Cubase panner.


Sasha Kindel said:
Two, I think I'm going to want to work without MIR most of the time, and only enable it when I do balance work and when I render things to audio, so I can hear the details better and to conserve processing power. I've been getting instruments into MIR by adding it to this Inserts list under Channel Settings one track at a time, but is there a way to turn MIR on and off for all instruments at once?
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MIR has a bypass option that lets you bypass the MIR processing for a specific instrument. You can easily do that in the main MIR interface, it should be pretty quick in there to bypass them all easily. If you're concerned about processing power, you might consider the GPU audio extension for MIR to offload this processing to your GPU, if your graphics card is supported.
 
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