8dio Insolidus
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Sounds like the quiet counterpart to Lacrimosa? I know they did a poll on their Facebook page for what sort of project they should pursue next, and people overwhelmingly voted for a Lacrimosa-ish choir. So sad - I voted for Requiem Pro 2.0 :(
Anyway. Technology-wise, I think Oceania is firmly ahead of this. I'm not a huge fan of the 8dio phrase-based choir approach. Sure, you can alter the pitch of the different parts, but you're still locked into the phrase in terms of rhythm and duration. Sounds fabulous in this teaser, but it's a lot less versatile than Oceania's approach where you have more freedom to do whatever.
But whatever, it's pretty silly to compare the two libraries as they are pretty much polar opposites in intended use.
Anyway. Technology-wise, I think Oceania is firmly ahead of this. I'm not a huge fan of the 8dio phrase-based choir approach. Sure, you can alter the pitch of the different parts, but you're still locked into the phrase in terms of rhythm and duration. Sounds fabulous in this teaser, but it's a lot less versatile than Oceania's approach where you have more freedom to do whatever.
But whatever, it's pretty silly to compare the two libraries as they are pretty much polar opposites in intended use.
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zewolfx
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Yup totally agree, as I said not the same register !
Let's wait for a full walkthrough to see what it can really do
Let's wait for a full walkthrough to see what it can really do
midiman
Senior Member
I don't think its fair to call this a Phrase-based library per say. Sonokinetic's Grosso and Capriccio are phrase based. This is in another region all together. On this video teaser 3 i see that there are 2 syllables on one chord but the following syllables are on different chords (as in a syllable per chord). I am not sure if one is forced to be at a certain bpm or how flexible it is in terms of tempo. But we will wait and see on the walkthrough. Nevertherser I don't qualify this simply as a phrase based library, and it would be quite unfair to do so given that is is way way more flexible compositionally then any typical phrase-based libraries out there like Sonokinetic. Am I the only one?
The insolidus teasers sound all great to me.
Yeah not implying that the library is phrase-based. It's sure to have shorts and legatos. But if you've purchased an 8Dio choir product you know what I mean, the tech they're demoing in the teaser is locked into that specific phrase. Like you just hold the keys down and it plays all the words in the phrase, you can't adjust timings or anything without changing patches entirely to a marcato or something.
artmuz
Active Member
Unless you have melodyne fired up!
WindcryMusic
Senior Member
It does sound really, really, really spectacular. But I too am worried about how much of this is dependent upon the specific phrases and rhythms used in the teasers. Considering how flawless it sounds, I am afraid it is going to be very dependent upon those phrases and rhythms, unfortunately.
If it turns out that it ISN'T that dependent upon them ... well then, just let me get out my credit card.
If it turns out that it ISN'T that dependent upon them ... well then, just let me get out my credit card.
erica-grace
Senior Member
WOW!!!!
erica-grace
Senior Member
Yes - I would definitely like to know if these are new recordings, or taken from soemwhere else.
And please, please, Mr. Troels - do not do the walkthrough!!! You are terrible!
You make great sample libraries (I own several 
) but your walkthroughs are among the most difficult things to listen to on the entire internet! 
Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously - please consider hiring a professional to do the walkthrough - you have many talents, but walkthroughs is not an area that you shine.
Peace.
MillsMixx
Production Director/Sound Designer
Yes - I would definitely like to know if these are new recordings, or taken from soemwhere else.
And please, please, Mr. Troels - do not do the walkthrough!!! You are terrible!
Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously - please consider hiring a professional to do the walkthrough - you have many talents, but walkthroughs is not an area that you shine.
Peace.
Ha! I think Troel's walkthroughs are great. He just talks a little fast but his musicianship is second to none and he offers a lot of excitement about the products. In fact I don't think any of us can ever get the libraries to sound as good as the walkthroughs lol. Its left me in disappoint a few times buying am 8dio library but then realizing I can't play it as well due to my own limitations. I really have to think about that before I take the purchase plunge.
8dio replied back to me on a you-tube video that I commented on one time, that they NEVER rehash old library samples but everything is always fresh and new. So I'll assume that this is new material unless told otherwise.
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kevinlee87
Member
Wonder about CPU usage. Lacrimosa is an insane CPU hog.
zacnelson
Senior Member
I like Troels' walkthroughs, his enthusiasm is infectious! Anyway back to Insolidus, have any of you played with 8dios Studio Sopranos? That is not `phrase-based' in my opinion, but it has these chants that go from one syllable to another and it is very flexible and perhaps Insolidus works in a similar way. Hopefully this screenshot will help to demonstrate what I mean:
LamaRose
Gato Mighty!
Yes, this sounds like an expanded version of the sopranos... and like all libraries, the sopranos do have some limitations and you will hit the inevitable wall... but with that said, I have to give 8Dio credit as those girls sound Amazing. And as Zac indicated, it's far more sophisticated than simple phrase playback. I only hope that they use Latin, or Greek, or Martian... some kind of semblance of a language this time.
zacnelson
Senior Member
The music on this teaser is extraordinarily beautiful and expressive. But do any of you think there is a bit too much reverb? Also, I felt that the reverb sounded very chorusy and modulated, am I correct? I found it distracted a little from the gorgeous character of the raw sound.
