SynthV ROSE - new amazing female power voice.
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bosone
Senior Member
mindblowing!
however, i tried to search for the voice and found this post on synthV forum
forum.synthesizerv.com
Two voice databases have been announced for Synthesizer V Studio, POPY and ROSE, releasing on December 21, 2023.
These characters made their vocal synth debut on CeVIO AI last year and are based on the vocalists of Poppin’ Party and Roselia from the multimedia project BanG Dream.
A note for international buyers:
As characters that are part of a large multimedia brand, these voice databases will likely have much more strict terms of use than we are accustomed to.
For users in Japan this will be less of an obstacle, but getting permission to release commercial works may be difficult for people overseas.
If the guidelines match those of their CeVIO counterparts 4, you will only be allowed to use TuneCore Japan and BIG UP! as distribution services. I do not know if these services are accessible by people outside Japan, so unless the terms are different than anticipated or someone can tell us whether that’s possible, international users may not be able to post their works to streaming services.
Please take appropriate caution before buying if you intend to use these voices commercially and do not live in Japan.
yumenokessho.bang-dream.com
however, i tried to search for the voice and found this post on synthV forum
Synthesizer V AI POPY & ROSE: New Japanese voice databases from Bushiroad Inc. available December 21, 2023
Two voice databases have been announced for Synthesizer V Studio, POPY and ROSE, releasing on December 21, 2023. These characters made their vocal synth debut on CeVIO AI last year and are based on the vocalists of Poppin’ Party and Roselia from the multimedia project BanG Dream. A note for...
forum.synthesizerv.com
Two voice databases have been announced for Synthesizer V Studio, POPY and ROSE, releasing on December 21, 2023.
These characters made their vocal synth debut on CeVIO AI last year and are based on the vocalists of Poppin’ Party and Roselia from the multimedia project BanG Dream.
A note for international buyers:
As characters that are part of a large multimedia brand, these voice databases will likely have much more strict terms of use than we are accustomed to.
For users in Japan this will be less of an obstacle, but getting permission to release commercial works may be difficult for people overseas.
If the guidelines match those of their CeVIO counterparts 4, you will only be allowed to use TuneCore Japan and BIG UP! as distribution services. I do not know if these services are accessible by people outside Japan, so unless the terms are different than anticipated or someone can tell us whether that’s possible, international users may not be able to post their works to streaming services.
Please take appropriate caution before buying if you intend to use these voices commercially and do not live in Japan.
Yumenokessho BanG Dream! AI Singing Synthesizer
"Yumenokessho" is a new multimedia franchise from "BanG Dream!"
yumenokessho.bang-dream.com
- If for commercial purposes, only the following uses are permitted. If using for commercial purposes, please be sure to contact Bushiroad Music before using.
- i. Posting videos using voice waveforms, etc. to sharing sites, and utilizing an official monetization program (so-called tipping functions, etc.) provided by a sharing site to make profit. Also, when posting videos using voice waveforms, etc. to sharing sites, please display the name of each product used, “CeVIO AI Yume no Kessho POPY” or “CeVIO AI Yume no Kessho ROSE” in the videos using voice waveforms, etc., in a size that can be seen at a glance, in an appropriate space for the introduction on the sharing site or within the videos using voice waveforms, etc.
- ii. Selling for a fee by downloading or streaming the voice waveform through one of the digital music aggregators specified below (hereinafter “Aggregators”). In addition to do so, please provide to the Aggregator with “CeVIO AI Yume no Kessho POPY” or “CeVIO AI Yume no Kessho ROSE” where it can be seen as part of the name of the song or artist. Please follow the separate rules of each Aggregator for details on delivery methods.
Aggregators:
・TuneCore Japan
・BIG UP!
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raidergale
Active Member
Yeah, Rose is great if you want a really shouty vocal, but there are indeed a lot of limitations if you want to make and sell original songs, since the voice is sampled from a Japanese singer and voice actress, and Japan has really strict rules when it comes to this.
This is a quick test I made using SynthV's audio to midi function, I made this in pretty much 5 minutes so I didn't edit stuff other than put proper lyrics in.
Since she's a Japanese vocal she does have an accent, so keep that in mind if you're interested in this voice.
View attachment DreamOn.mp3
This is a quick test I made using SynthV's audio to midi function, I made this in pretty much 5 minutes so I didn't edit stuff other than put proper lyrics in.
Since she's a Japanese vocal she does have an accent, so keep that in mind if you're interested in this voice.
View attachment DreamOn.mp3
Accent or no, that's a truly great voicebank! What a pity that these restriction rules are so complicated. I have the feeling it's almost impossible to not violate them...
So I better not risk buying.
Solkapound
Yeah, its me!
I agree. This voice bank has a lot to offer. I'd buy it because I think I could squeeze a lot out of it, except those rules for commercial use are senselessly restrictive. They're pretty much ostracizing the professional end of the spectrum and relegating this voice bank to hobbyists and tinkerers.
odod
Faluna studio
Was just about to buy this VB when I read these .. oh my
Chungus
Active Member
What hoops did you need to jump through to get your hands on this? I would very much like to do the same.
raidergale
Active Member
I bought her voicebank on DLSite!
It's a Japanese website that also deals with a lot of... risque fanworks, so don't stray too far from the vocal synth section, but they usually have a lot of coupons ready (new users get a 30% off coupon if they use the "DLsiteWelcome30" code while signing up), and since they use Yen as the main currency you can take advantage of the weak Yen to save a few bucks.
Keep in mind that they don't support PayPal directly, you can only buy points with PayPal, but if you have a prepaid card you can use that to buy products directly with no issues, it's what I usually do.
odod
Faluna studio
Did you bought the pro or basic?
raidergale
Active Member
Basic! The Pro version is simply a bundle including the voice and Synthesizer V Pro Editor, but I already owned the latter 
ThomasS
Active Member
Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear anything particularity "amazing" about Rose. Of course if you sample the pitch curves of Celine Dion, any Synth V voice can sound pretty good, but her actual tone and vocal style is nothing special to my ears. Add the restricted usage for non-Japanese users and this one is a definite no. Not a great English accent either. But I like that new voices keep coming out, and look forward to more in the future.
X-Bassist
Senior Member
As with all sound, amazing is relative to what’s been heard berfore, which was mostly gibberish with a hint of vocal clarity in moments. Actually understanding full sentences was unheard of 3 years ago. In that light most Japanese voices sounded Anime and squeaky. These are def getting closer, my question is how much work is it if you don’t have an Areosmith song to pull from. Coming up with style and inflections could be a lot of work beyond lyrics. But singing myself with my bad voice (soundwise, I can hit the notes and give them style) then replacing that with Rose or something else would be cool.
Which I guess is moot until it’s legal for me to use it and sell the music. I suppose a few more years and a company like Sample Modeling will get a hold of it and start selling real American Voices with multiple accents and styles. Then we’ll see how much work it is.
Yeah, the legal use restriction has me holding off. But I like the power she can do, a little better than Sheena, but Sheena is not far behind, and no legal issues.
X-bassist, have you tried to sing one octave low, then move it up before applying the AI voice? Can help a lot when you don't have that upper range (who has, lol?)
X-bassist, have you tried to sing one octave low, then move it up before applying the AI voice? Can help a lot when you don't have that upper range (who has, lol?)
I just don’t get all of this reluctance to buy an AI voice, because “there may be some restriction on commercial use“……..In the very unlikely event that I was fortunate enough to write a song that was good enough to actually make any money from, then I would just pay a human vocalist to re-do the singing - you can get a perfectly good vocalist on Fiverr for less than 50 quid - probably even less than that !!
These AI voices can (and in my view, should) be used to make “demo” tracks to see whether the song is any good - in exactly the same way that many composers use virtual instruments before re-recording with an orchestra.
These AI voices can (and in my view, should) be used to make “demo” tracks to see whether the song is any good - in exactly the same way that many composers use virtual instruments before re-recording with an orchestra.
Solkapound
Yeah, its me!
Commercial use covers a wide variety of applications. Last month I released an EP of 1980s pop covers. It features all human vocalists, but I used SynthV for some light, airy background vocals on one of the songs. Per the voicebank EULAs, I simply left the BGVs uncredited. Now imagine how unprofessional and cluttered my EP would look if I had to add "CeVIO AI Yume no Kessho ROSE" as a credit in addition to the featured vocalists.
To me, developers who demand credits come across as inexperienced. ROSE has the potential to be very useful to artists/producers in my shoes, but the restrictive EULA precludes it. Perhaps the developer intends ROSE to be more of a tinkerer's toy than a professional tool. That's certainly their prerogative, but from a business perspective, it doesn't make sense.
richiebee
Active Member
It unnecessarily complicates life. It's something that you have to keep track of, and remember. Since there are lots of voicebanks that are way less restrictive, why deal with the hassle of this one just because it can do aggressive?
I'd release stuff using Synth-V. I'd also do media work with it (short films in my case). Some of us don't have the budget for re-recording with an orchestra.
