Different Volume Controls for Samples in 1 Group

First of all, don't get me wrong, but it'd be preferable to create a single thread for all of your questions instead of initiating separate ones (given that this question is related to the previous one).

As I mentioned earlier, the KSP Reference Manual is your best companion during this journey. Every sample you import into Kontakt, whether it's a user zone or a normal sample, is referred to as a 'zone' and is assigned a unique ID number. It's important to note that each time you add a new sample in Kontakt, the zone ID increases. Since your instrument features a waveform display, it means that you have the relevant code to retrieve the zone ID of each sample so that the correct waveform is displayed whenever you press a key. Take that zone ID and use it with set_zone_par and $ZONE_PAR_VOLUME.

Ok got it!

I tried this a couple times already now it works BUT when I mute the volume of the Main group the sound of the dropped sample "ABC" is gone even when I try to change the volume of this sample on its own. When I use the volume knob on "ABC" it blows my speakers. so where should I put the volume range? there is no example for this in the Reference Manual.

should it be like this?

set_zone_par(%NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0], $ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, (-3600, 600))

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ZONE_PAR_VOLUME has a range of -3600 to 3600.

Method #1: You will need to scale the values of your ui_slider so they give you values ranging from -3600 to 3600

Method #2 (aka the Lazy Method): You will need to create an array and input all the values ranging from -36 to 36. Then, read that array using the slider's value and a little bit of scaling and then multiply it by 100.



The lazy method might not be everyone's favorite, but hey, it gets the job done, right?

still doesn't work.

I have 1 slider for all my groups and I wanna use only this one slider.
I change the groups in my volume menu.
As soon as I open (volume_menu = 7) and I only use the volume slider a lil bit its like the volume goes to 5000db

declare ui_slider $VOLUME(0,795000)
make_persistent($VOLUME)
declare $k_VOLUME
$k_VOLUME := get_ui_id($VOLUME)
set_control_par_str($k_VOLUME,$CONTROL_PAR_PICTURE,"w-3333")
set_control_par($k_VOLUME,$CONTROL_PAR_POS_X,306)
set_control_par($k_VOLUME,$CONTROL_PAR_POS_Y,31)
set_control_par($k_VOLUME,$CONTROL_PAR_MOUSE_BEHAVIOUR,$mouse_resp)

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on ui_control($mainvolume)
if ($volume_menu = 0)
set_engine_par($ENGINE_PAR_VOLUME,$MAINVOLUME,$volume_menu,$VOLUME_SLOT,-1)
end if
......
if ($volume_menu = 7)
set_zone_par($ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, %NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0],$MAINVOLUME)
end if
end on

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with a second slider does it work I tried this before.

Mainvolume's callback is incorrect.

Set_engine_par info -> click here

set_zone_par(%NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0], $ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, <your controller with the scaled values as shown in my example>)

Literally, the answer has already been given in the previous responses.

Cheers!

OK the callback works now but is there a way to separate the Main Volume from the "Sample" volume?
When I turn the Main Volume up the Sample Volume goes up too. When I change it on volume_menu 7 then I could change it but as soon as I use the Main volume again the sample volume is the same as the main volume again that's so weird.

Is there a way to block the Main Volume function for the Sample?

Yes. You can do that using an if clause, in case there’s a special menu or switch which allows you to switch between different modes etc or you can use a shortcut. For example, by holding cmd and clicking on the knob, you can change the sample (zone) volume.

Thread 'Alt / Command / Ctrl keys'
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/alt-command-ctrl-keys.41114/

the way with pressing keys is no option for me thousands of people don't understand it at the end.

it must be something like
if ($volume_menu = 0)
set_engine_par($ENGINE_PAR_VOLUME,$MAINVOLUME,$volume_menu,$VOLUME_SLOT,-1)
don't allow set_zone_par($ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, %NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0],%values[$mainvolume/13750]*100)
end if

or not? I only know how disallow and allow works with groups or with
if ($ashfk = 0) then ...
end if
if (ashfk = 1) then ...
end if
end on

but I don't know how I could bypass or disallow this function

treynterrio said:

it must be something like
if ($volume_menu = 0)
set_engine_par($ENGINE_PAR_VOLUME,$MAINVOLUME,$volume_menu,$VOLUME_SLOT,-1)
don't allow set_zone_par($ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, %NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0],%values[$mainvolume/13750]*100)
end if

or not? I only know how disallow and allow works with groups or with
if ($ashfk = 0) then ...
end if
if (ashfk = 1) then ...
end if
end on

but I don't know how I could bypass or disallow this function

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@theodorech please help me with this it's the last piece I need for my library I'm really desperate

But I did help you! Literally, the answers you’re looking for are already available in this thread

I’m a bit confused with the extra code and how it’s related to “allow” and “disallow”.

If you switch between groups using the volume_menu then you don’t need the if clauses (unless you do something else).

In other words:


Control the volume of the user zone (the slider’s range on my example is 0 to 1 million). In case you wanna have a different range, then you’ll need to scale the value accordingly:


The journey is what truly matters, including the enjoyment you find in the process (such as studying code). Requesting ready-made code doesn’t facilitate learning.

theodorech said:

But I did help you! Literally, the answers you’re looking for are already available in this thread

I’m a bit confused with the extra code and how it’s related to “allow” and “disallow”.

If you switch between groups using the volume_menu then you don’t need the if clauses (unless you do something else).

In other words:

Code:

 set_engine_par($ENGINE_PAR_VOLUME, $volume_knob, <group>, -1, -1)

Control the volume of the user zone (the slider’s range on my example is 0 to 1 million). In case you wanna have a different range, then you’ll need to scale the value accordingly:

Code:

set_zone_par(%NI_USER_ZONE_IDS[0], $ZONE_PAR_VOLUME, %values[$mainvolume/13750]*100)

The journey is what truly matters, including the enjoyment you find in the process (such as studying code). Requesting ready-made code doesn’t facilitate learning.

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@theodorech check your messages I've sent you a Video of the problem