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Kontakt 7.8.0 Crashes with S61 MK3 while loading instruments in Logic

babylonwaves

babylonwaves

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Hi,

I've updated to a S61MK3, and Logic 10.8.1 constantly crashes on me when I load a couple of instruments in Kontakt 7.8.0. I drag them from the browser on top of an existing instrument, and then Logic crashes instantly. It doesn't happen when I switch off the keyboard or remove the Kontrol S61 MK3 Control Surface plug-in.

Is anybody else having this?

Thanks, Marc

@EvilDragon



Time Awake Since Boot: 48000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 9692 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000

Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11
Terminating Process: exc handler [21763]

VM Region Info: 0 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 4376936448
REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL
UNUSED SPACE AT START
--->
__TEXT 104e2c000-106c3c000 [ 30.1M] r-x/r-x SM=COW ...S/Logic Pro X

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 CoreFoundation 0x189f4d438 CF_IS_OBJC + 24
1 CoreFoundation 0x189e05a10 CFStringGetCString + 84
2 MAAudioEngine 0x10a211dd8 MAAEAudioUnit::AU2PlugIn::GetControlName(short, unsigned long, char*) + 244
3 Logic Pro X 0x10605d6e8 0x104e2c000 + 19076840
4 Logic Pro X 0x10605e21c 0x104e2c000 + 19079708
5 Logic Pro X 0x1052ad700 0x104e2c000 + 4724480
6 Logic Pro X 0x10600e908 0x104e2c000 + 18753800
7 Logic Pro X 0x10600ee68 0x104e2c000 + 18755176
8 Logic Pro X 0x106010098 0x104e2c000 + 18759832
9 Logic Pro X 0x1056be4e8 0x104e2c000 + 8987880
10 Logic Pro X 0x10566d910 0x104e2c000 + 8657168
11 Logic Pro X 0x105217028 0x104e2c000 + 4108328
12 Logic Pro X 0x1061a8ed8 0x104e2c000 + 20434648
13 Logic Pro X 0x1057bb6b0 0x104e2c000 + 10024624
14 Foundation 0x18afbeaf8 __NSFireTimer + 104
15 CoreFoundation 0x189e979b0 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 32
16 CoreFoundation 0x189e97658 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 972
17 CoreFoundation 0x189e97190 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 356
18 CoreFoundation 0x189e7a6d4 __CFRunLoopRun + 1856
19 CoreFoundation 0x189e7993c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 608
20 HIToolbox 0x194442448 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292
21 HIToolbox 0x194442284 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 648
22 HIToolbox 0x194441fdc _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 76
23 AppKit 0x18d658ed0 _DPSNextEvent + 660
24 AppKit 0x18de43eec -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 716
25 Logic Pro X 0x1061b28dc 0x104e2c000 + 20474076
26 AppKit 0x18d64c37c -[NSApplication run] + 476
27 AppKit 0x18d623640 NSApplicationMain + 880
28 Logic Pro X 0x10575cee8 0x104e2c000 + 9637608
29 dyld 0x189a1d0e0 start + 2360
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Unfortunately yes. This is apparently a known issue (I'm assuming you are running Sonoma):
community.native-instruments.com

Anyone else have issues with Kontrol S88 crashing Logic?

Hi, all. New poster here, just got hold of a new S88 Mk3 and I'm having some problems with it.
community.native-instruments.com community.native-instruments.com

This appears to be an issue that lies somewhere between Apple and NI, so not clear how quick a fix there will be.

By the way, the "remedy" for now is either to downgrade your OS to Ventura; or load instruments into Komplete Kontrol rather than Kontakt, with assurances that this will work perfectly. At least on my system (Mac M1Pro, Sonoma 14.2.1, Logic 10.8.1, latest versions of K7 Player and Komplete Kontrol) this is not the case, several libraries from different developers will consistently crash Logic if loaded into Komplete Kontrol. On top of that, I discovered today that libraries loaded into Komplete Kontrol do not reliably render when bounced to disk, even if they play back perfectly.

I was hoping the Komplete Kontrol option would be palatable, but it is not for me. For now I'm going to continue using Kontakt 6 as much as possible until this bug gets sorted out.
 
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danstein said:
By the way, the "remedy" for now is either to downgrade your OS to Ventura; or load instruments into Komplete Kontrol rather than Kontakt, with assurances that this will work perfectly. At least on my system (Mac M1Pro, Sonoma 14.2.1, Logic 10.8.1, latest versions of K7 Player and Komplete Kontrol) this is not the case, several libraries from different developers will consistently crash Logic if loaded into Komplete Kontrol
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@danstein If you remove the NI control surface plug-in in Logic, the crashes stop. Logic automatically adds it at startup, just FYI.
The older version of the control surface plug-in (used for MK1/MK2 keyboards) seems to work fine. Kontakt doesn't crash, even though I'm still using Sonoma.

To me, it feels like the release of the MK3 series was rushed, the software is not ready. We have this crash; the MIDI template editor is still missing months after the release, among other things.
 
MIDI template editor is being worked on, should happen in the next firmware update for mk3, along with several other nice features.

This crash was investigated AFAIK and IIRC a fix was found. I can double check.
 
@babylonwaves - thanks for the tip, Marc! Haven't tested extensively but on a first try removing the control surface does indeed seem to stop the crashing! Will definitely test further, but it's looking good.
 
I don't know if this is relevant in this context, but in situations like this, it's usually a good idea to see if temporarily removing Logic's Control Surface preferences file (called "com.apple.logic.pro.cs") and restarting the Mac makes any difference. It's located in Users>Library>Preferences.

In order to find it, you may need to press Command + Shift + . (the period key) to toggle the visibility of hidden files.
 
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danstein said:
- thanks for the tip, Marc! Haven't tested extensively but on a first try removing the control surface does indeed seem to stop the crashing! Will definitely test further, but it's looking good.
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@danstein
Nice - just make sure that you delete it every time you boot logic. I'm sure you can delete the actual file somewhere to save that step but I haven't had time to try (and find the file).
 
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